Why Dynamic Que Shoulden't replace solo que part 2
Hi my name is Phanatos (skip to ending if you don't have patience for details)
I allready stated my opinion on Dynamic que, and for the most part a lot of people agreed with me in both the comments and the likes. However, clearly nothing was done, for we still have no solo que. So here is me making a second topic and hopefully this one will be more clear to riot in why solo que needs to come back, hopefully this time, without duo que.
I love league of legends, I love it so much, to the point i jumped into the horrors of ranked and climbed all the way to gold five by myself during season five. Which for the most part is the basic goal the majority casual competitive league players have. Most casually competitive players have the goal of. "ok once I hit gold or plat, i'm done, I am happy, I have proven to myself I am good at this game" Than they will switch to a more casual form of play
However I was never one of those guys who went "ok once I hit gold, I am done with ranked", we all know those people, and frankly nothing is wrong with that mind set. If anything it is something to admire, to have a goal and to chase for it. However I never said "ok Phanatos, once you hit gold, no more ranked". If anything once I accomplished it, it motivated me to go "yo..maybe we can hit diamond season six". However as of late I find solo ranked play COMPLETELY impossible to enjoy.
Now why is that?
Frankly a large part of it has to do do with the fact I have premades on my team, and premades on the enemy team. Many people played strictly ranked only just so they could avoid premade horrors that normals had. I remember a common joke before season six that many new players might not know went abit like this.
"Yo don't do normals, it's cancer, nothing but salty premades lol", for truth was, for the most part, premades did not exist in normals. Worse case scenario you got two guys duo queing, worse worse case, which was extremely rare, you had two pairs of duo quers on your team. However since these two pairs were separate pairs, it still made it feel like "solo". The two pairs had no influence over one another, only over the fellow duo quer buddy, if anything this scenario was debatebly better for now all five players were forced to work together for optimal communication, instead of the scenario with one pair of duo quers who work to hard to try hard and only communicate with each other just to ultimately fail for they closed off communication. But I am starting to get off topic.
Why did Duo que work, but not "dynamic" que
Answer The Multiple types of games you can have, which all work completely different but rather negative as a whole
3 premades vs 2 solo players the 3+ players will for the most part only communicate with eachother, and more often than not flame the two solo players. This creates a uneasy friction and a rather toxic envirement, and while YOU may mute the people who you find toxic, this does not guarente the other guy will, and if he does not, he will proceed to tilt and counter flame. If this said scenario happens, rip game.
3 premades vs 2 premades The major flaw here is basically the same as the one stated above, the 3 premades have to much influence in what objectives get focus while the 2 premades get even saltier and will just body guard eachother and leave the premade of 3 to die at every opportunity. It basically becomes a argument over whos premade is more toxic.
4+ premades vs 1 solo player More often than not, the solo player in this scenario will not get flamed, what will happen is quite humurously demonstrated in a once famous youtube series. The dreaded skype silence and the only time they do talk, is to trash you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESx4vJYPQnY
This sorta support what I said about season five, in how players from my gen would joke saying "don't do normals, just a bunch of salty premades" but quite frankly this was the truth! And this video demonstrates a very toxic envirement that is debatebly worse than player with a group of 3. Now the only other three possibilities are...
2 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1 no one from before season 6 enjoyed this one, for the duo que basically does nothing but listen only to eachother, will randomly go off without warning, and hell god forbid one tilts, or else they both tilt pair of 2 vs pair of 2 vs 1 solo (these turn out pretty well in all honesty)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf0RpcD6pzU
and the blessed rare times where you get
1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1 s 1 (how ranked should be)
So as you can see, we only have 2 ideal scenarios out of 5 that are healthy for ranked. While the other scenarios tend to promote unhealthy toxicity inside the team itself.
However revisiting the video sky williams made, duo que was also a bad system, for time to time you would get the most toxic duo que group, this was on average once every four games. Which quite honestly plays a large reason why even good players only have a 6 out of 10 win loss ratio.
Quite frankly if we had a strict solo only ranked system that removed all forms of inviting other people, we would have a system where once and for all, if you lost, it is one hundred percent your fault, nothing left to blame besides the occasional major feeder. You have nothing left to blame for yourself, and it would be a great eye opener to see how good we really are. Plus another problem with Dynamic que, is that it took away ranked fives, which people quite enjoyed.
Plus I am going to call out EVERYONE including myself.
The only time you que with a friend is for one of 3 scenarios
1-You are hoping they are good enough to carry you and make your life easy
2-They talked you into believing it will be a 50 50 teamwork scenario, but in reality, it is you carrying them, and you are to nice to ditch the sucker.
3-You are hoping they make you less nervous, which in its own right, is hoping they carry you, but in a more mental aspect.
Get rid of this whole "invite friends" aspect to ranked, make it strict solo, and than reintroduce ranked fives, some people complain "but we can never find a 4th/5th person" to this i give the simple answer.
MAKE MORE MAPS, FIX TWISTED TREELINE AND MAKE IT COMPETITIVE. That way groups of 3 can enjoy all the fun that is league , and not have to stress anymore about finding a 4th or 5th guy.
Anyways that is all I have to say.
Hope riot and the community takes in what I say.
