https://i.gyazo.com/30d283169063035666a84da9cd887f42.png i really don't know about this champion
feels like he has no cooldown in late game while being unkillable, able to bait ccs, and deals so much damage
i'm more afraid of ornn damage right now than darius damage...
Barkley3 votesHonestly its not really his damage that's the problem, its how reliably he can land it. His CC cooldowns are just too damn low. Once he maxes a skill or 2, he can just basically perma-CC you to death. If he couldn't reliably lock you up the way he can, his damage wouldn't be terrible.
If they nerf his cooldowns, his damage might actually need buffing, tbh.
But one or the other needs to happen. He either needs a damage nerf, or he needs longer cooldowns - otherwise this (pic in OP) happens.
D357R0Y3R1 voteswell he's going to lose grasp that's something good i guess
z63XnLCMwX1 votesHonestly its not really his damage that's the problem, its how reliably he can land it. His CC cooldowns are just too damn low. Once he maxes a skill or 2, he can just basically perma-CC you to death. If he couldn't reliably lock you up the way he can, his damage wouldn't be terrible.
If they nerf his cooldowns, his damage might actually need buffing, tbh.
But one or the other needs to happen. He either needs a damage nerf, or he needs longer cooldowns - otherwise this (pic in OP) happens.
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Barkley1 votesyeah maokai is pretty busted... or was.
He just got hit with the nerf stick, and he's at least more manageable than he was. Still think he's borderline OP tho, even with the nerfs.
And its not him, its aftershock. If you look at champion.gg right now, and find all the tanks and bruisers with the highest win rates - they're all champions that can abuse aftershock.
420 grams2 votesI think his damage is fine, it's the range he's able to do it that feels unfair to play against
D357R0Y3R1 votesthat's something i didn't think about true
NocturnalSheild1 votesHe was only 5th out of 10.
He really only needs some love taps.
Craft Zeppelin1 votesHonestly, if you lane against ornn using Fiora or trundle it feels so...wrong. Like, basically you are cheating in a duel if you use these two champs, but ornn remains victorious.
Fiora: Parries CC, another cc coming right up. Gets knocked up and gets beaten to a pulp. Lands on ground gets 4ult slices, he doesn't die. Then outdamages you.
Trundle: I stole his stats, but he out damages me, out runs me and flat out stuns me to death.
LordGeovanni1 votesOrnn is a result of lazy balancing his w was fine but all of his skills scale with different things so he had no way to secure lead in lane before. None of his skill scale enough with due to the fact that any way he builds only one skill will gain any benifit from it. his r and e had delays on them through his dash and how slow it was. even now ornn can be knocked out of his e before it even moves his q was bad due to how long the pillar takes to erupt and how you couldnt control where it came up. now Orrns q comes up right behind an enemy champion if you hit them but it still takes too long to erupt his e still takes to long to activate has no damage and is on a long cooldown. But his bearable w is now the second more toxic type of damage in the game Max health magic damage. Because they couldnt try to make the parts of his kit that felt bad better. Because riot believes that Already low range slow tanks with no damage should be gated even more though delayed activation and long cooldown spells.
