Playing against ekko is rage inducing.

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I'm so glad he isn't played often, but the few times I get him... jesus christ. In lane all he does is QQQQQQQQQQQQQ and push the wave, then if he decides to EQAA, you can do nothing about it since he gets ms to run away. After lvl 6, good luck killing him. He'll just press the oopsie button and run away or just kill you with it. But the most frustrating part for me is his wave clear since lvl 1. Just Qs and runs back to tower then he does it again and again.

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ReySolomon44 votes

I'll rather lane against Ekko than Anivia.

nm10108 votes

Can't we just agree to call cancer, cancer? Stage 4, stage 2, its all still cancer.

ZapMyHeart2 votes

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Can't we just agree to call cancer, cancer? Stage 4, stage 2, its all still cancer.

Stage 4 is terminal though. At least with Stage 2, there is still a chance.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

nm10101 votes

Stage 4 is metastasised (spread to other organs/areas), very likely terminal but it can be cured. Still much better to play against less severe cancer xD

OnanThaMan11 votes

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I'll rather lane against Ekko than Anivia.

Yea, fuck that bird.

Malicious Metal5 votes

She's been my permaban since the 10 ban system for a reason.

And people have the audacity of defending her.

AirKingNeo1 votes

I would rather lane against Ekko than most champions.

Unvictus2 votes

The AP item changes made it that much worse.. She gets so much more out of building item 3003. Anivia is the epitome of an uninteractive champion.. gets to press R to insta clear the minion wave, and you can't even punish her by engaging on her in the laning phase cause she has her stupid egg.

BeatzBoyFTW20 votes

In lane all he does is QQQQQQQQQQQQQ and push the wave, then if he decides to EQAA, you can do nothing about it since he gets ms to run away.

Hmmmmm...

Yasuo

#HMMMMMMMM

Yaśuo Main3 votes

well yas doesnt get movement speed sadly, needs a rune for that.

also if he pushes wave then he's an easy gank for a kill xd.

but i think the funniest part is that there is a similar post to this that says "yasuo is rage inducing to play against" with the same crybaby behavior the post has. AND yas does what ekko does but more obnoxiously

Votable Jester2 votes

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well yas doesnt get movement speed sadly, needs a rune for that.

Or an item he builds every game.

also if he pushes wave then he's an easy gank for a kill xd.

Unless he pushed it in to tower before the next wave arrived. Also the enemy laner would have to walk through all those minions to help with the gank.

TBH I'm more fine with Yasuo now, but he is rather annoying. Then again, so is almost every champion in the game (otherwise they'd be easy to beat).

Yaśuo Main1 votes

Or an item he builds every game.

If you mean PD then he still doesn't, last time I checked it doesn't say "yasuo gets free movement speed when EQAAing". If you mean he does get movement speed from exterior sources, then yes.

Unless he pushed it in to tower before the next wave arrived. Also the enemy laner would have to walk through all those minions to help with the gank

Wouldn't that make ganking impossible? The entire point of a jungler not being unable to gank is usually because they are blocked off, or the person they gank is pushed in. So the easiest way to have a clearing to gank is to let the wave go to your tower, and not suddenly show a change to aggression once your jungler is there.

Also the enemy laner would have to walk through all those minions to help with the gank.

As far as I know, if that was a thing then the boards would be much more enthusiastic about minion block being broken. Otherwise, that is a totally rare thing to occur.

Votable Jester1 votes

What I meant by walk through the wave is have to move past them (itself not difficult) and take damage from all of them hitting (which hurts a lot in the early game).

Again, a lot of champs can do this sorta stuff.

Denims Wrath66611 votes

+1 for oopsie button

ZapMyHeart1 votes

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+1 for oopsie button

I feel like it should be called Panic button. Or JayKay button. Just to be more dramatic.

[sg-ezreal]

Baron Barian11 votes

He's like Yas, Zed, and even Darius. He comes across as a complete pain in the ass when you haven't fought him much before, but once you fight him in enough games and maybe get your face bashed in enough, you'll start realizing that he isn't nearly as rough as you may have thought.

Or at the very least, you feed him less.

JackMcSnipeyz8 votes

Seriously arent you tierd of posting every time you lose lane?

Daunt4 votes

It's actually sad how true this is. Most of the boards does this.

JackMcSnipeyz3 votes

Look at his post history. Literaly has problem with everything in this game that isnt his one trick udyr. This is quite pathetic TBH

Nut on my Butt4 votes

The other day I played Syndra vs an Ekko and I would only ult him while he was stunned. Was pretty funny how every time I did he was confused in all chat, saying "lol, I pressed r".

Was great fun.

And thank gawd new runes got rid of that lvl 1 Q two shotting caster minions bullshit.

LL Justice1 votes

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Nut on my Butt6 votes

Stop being a dumb. I never said anything about him not being allowed to have waveclear, I said two shotting caster minions at LEVEL 1 and then the whole wave after proc'ing passive on the melee minions is bullshit, and it was abused for obvious reasons.

Also not sure in what world someone can be hardstuck after only 45 games with a win ratio that gets champions nerfed, but I guess if you're that desperate to attack someone's ranking.

LL Justice1 votes

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Nut on my Butt10 votes

Putting words in my mouth again lmao, where did I say that's any less obnoxious?

At least Sol is easier to punish later on. P1.

TWITCHTV ERONATE13 votes

wait he's trying to insult your rank while he's lower ranked? what the actual fuck lol

Nut on my Butt2 votes

I mean, he's clearly a smurf, but he also doesn't seem to understand what "hardstuck" actually looks like

TWITCHTV ERONATE5 votes

didn't bother searching seems like the kind person you cant hold a discussion with anyways

LL Justice1 votes

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TWITCHTV ERONATE9 votes

then dont lol

stereotypes btw

also im pretty positive im not silver

LL Justice1 votes

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TWITCHTV ERONATE6 votes

yeah might wanna search it on eune bud lol

Irokaiser1 votes

S T O P B E I N G A D U M B

HungryAngry2SPP1 votes

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The other day I played Syndra vs an Ekko and I would only ult him while he was stunned. Was pretty funny how every time I did he was confused in all chat, saying "lol, I pressed r".

Was great fun.

And thank gawd new runes got rid of that lvl 1 Q two shotting caster minions bullshit.

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kurnubego4 votes

One of the most healthiest assassin type champions in the game. He supposed to be very slippery.

Vekkna2 votes

I didn't realize assassins had support-level zoning and cc on 3/4 of their spells.

Bârd1 votes

Would you rather it wasn't telegraphed?

Vekkna1 votes

Are you talking about Q, W, or R?

Q: I would rather it be like Ahri's Q or Swain's E, not a moving zone that continuously reapplies a 60% slow for 2.5 seconds. It's not just Ekko that's a problem here; it's also Galio, Katarina, Talon (to a lesser degree), Xayah, Azir, AP Nasus, and Taliyah.

Abilities that deal front-loaded damage, then zone with the threat of additional damage are inherently problematic because the zoning requires no tradeoff (like Lux E) and you don't avoid all damage by leaving the zone (Maokai sapling, Illaoi, Heimer, etc). It's also a problem that these champs have incidental zoning power not factored into their power budgets, unlike champs designed for zone control (eg Zyra, GP barrels, Heimer, Teemo, Illaoi, Zilean, Cait, Mao, Cassio, Lux, Gragas, etc).

This is the exact problem with the old Yorick. His abilities dealt damage up front, then zoned with the penalty of additional damage from ghouls. It was most pronounced on him because the design was used on all of his abilities, but the design flaw doesn't become less flawed because it's on 1-2 abilities instead of 3.

W: Delayed and telegraphed are two different things. The delay is 3 seconds. The telegraph is .5 seconds, which is the amount of time you have to dodge an Arcane Comet or Xerath W (and shorter than Brand W and Zyra Q).

R: Yes. First reason is because the clone is buggy as fuck and appears and disappears so often (regardless of whether Ekko is actually nearby) that's it's unreliable to play around. Second reason is that because of Ekko's fucking insane move speed, the clone is often not actually visible.

Third reason is because playing against one Ekko requires the mindshare of tracking two moving units at all times. That's also part of the skill cap of playing him, but his players innately have more practice with the mechanic, making it more reflexive and lower mindshare. Playing against him is more demanding of attention than playing against most other champs.

Laçez3 votes

I Main Ekko :)

Poske3 votes

As a midlane and compettetive minded player. Ekko is garbage tier

Here are the reasons

  1. His Q on the way back never hits good players unless they decide to tank it ... and why would they
  2. His W never hits any good player even from FOG + its telegraphed as fk. Yes I saw that dragon pit stun from Shiptur in NA.. that shit only happens on NA
  3. His R never hits any good player unless they decide to tank it
  4. His waveclear is good but his CSING isnt. If Ekko just permapushes the wave he is missing 2 cs on that wave per average
  5. His dueling is subpar
  6. Outclassed by Good le blanc (So me and maybe some random korean dude), Ahri (Ahri literaly outclasses ekko at all points)
  7. He ll die before he uses his ultimate most of a time

This champions has nothing going for itself except for tempo build up in rare matchups and hoping to cheese with a roam while not having that amazing ganks to begin with

If you want an actualy opressive level 1 waveclear Champion try Aurelion sol, this dragon has record for earliest ganks from mid

So I am immensly surprised that you are having a problem with ekko .. oh wait you arent even a mid main.. explains why you have no idea thats freelo matchup

If ekko were anything but dogshit tier I would gladly play him

Laçez3 votes

Honestly as someone who plays ekko... I couldn't agree more. I don't like the Q, it isn't reliable or even effective poke for the way it works and the W is only really good for the shield. I like the ultimate though, in all honesty there are much better picks than Ekko.

Poske1 votes

Ultimate is cool just not that effective

Colton1472 votes

Any champion that counters my Lux, Corki, and Ziggs are lanes that I don't like.

WubbaLubbaDubDab2 votes

Fuck ekko dude so fcking annoying.his slow is op and he has a fcking double dash and he can get his 3 stacks so easily which gives him such a huge burst of movement speed and his ult god his fucking broken ass ult.it's literally a deny death ult and the cool down is so damn low for some reason.it makes no sense. But do u know who's worse?shack FCK that guy all stealth champs has a range that if u go in u can be seen but not shaco cuz his one tricks will start bitching he is by far the unhealthiest jungler

HungryAngry2SPP1 votes

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Fuck ekko dude so fcking annoying.his slow is op and he has a fcking double dash and he can get his 3 stacks so easily which gives him such a huge burst of movement speed and his ult god his fucking broken ass ult.it's literally a deny death ult and the cool down is so damn low for some reason.it makes no sense. But do u know who's worse?shack FCK that guy all stealth champs has a range that if u go in u can be seen but not shaco cuz his one tricks will start bitching he is by far the unhealthiest jungler

In late game R has got 33s cooldown circa

Kanzler2 votes

Having retarded supports is more rage inducing than anything

Sylvester Dylone2 votes

Annoying to deal with, yet balanced IMO

Best Ekko NA2 votes

Ekko Ekko Ekko What's good boys?

[sg-poppy]

Tychusfindlay9182 votes

I wouldn't mind gutting his waveclear if it means he can receive other tools to maybe trade better early game.

In mid lane he'll get poked out hard and top lane he almost always loses trades against top laners.

No matter how you slice it, ekko is incentivized to play like a bitch and Q spam at max range to clear waves.

The Deckowner2 votes

have u seen Ryze Azir?

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