Riot: " but we love diversity..."

Wukong Airlines·Dec 6, 2017·39 votes·2,023 views

yet hasn't been touched for 1330 days and is rest in pieces.

meanwhile on pbe .. :Unique Passive - Giant Slayer Damage increased from 20% to 25% Changed from [2% per 100 health difference] to [2.5% at 200 health difference] Max health difference increased from 1000 to 2000

Better give your ADCs more damage when those melee juggernauts skrubs try get more defenses.

Then on their hiring site they be like: we want smart, collaborative, and creative team players. ~~It’s always about players~~. If it needs to be about you, we’re not the right spot.

39 Comments

Ok sure but whyDec 6, 201731 votes

If you haven't noticed, MonkeyKing item 3147 is kinda broken as fuck right now

Wukong AirlinesDec 6, 20174 votes

Please confirm with a proper comparison of pickratio + win ratio with other champs, then tell me whats broken and what's not.

General Esdeath Dec 6, 20173 votes

He's a diver, not an assassin. He shouldn't be dealing that much damage that quickly.

Ok sure but whyDec 6, 20172 votes

What a shame he does lmao

General Esdeath Dec 6, 20171 votes

It is a shame, because given Riot's previous actions on topics like this, he's probably going to be nerfed, then duskblade will be nerfed, then he'll be in a shitty state.

Sun Wu RyuumokuDec 6, 20173 votes

broken ??? at low elo maybe... like all champs. if u talk about OS, its nothing new. But Wukong is still a shitty pick losing all his matchup top.

Wukong AirlinesDec 6, 201711 votes

Yeah, thing is you're comparing DMG only, which is binary when assessing a champ's performance as a whole. + there are better champs that can 1shot faster if that's what you wanna point out JarvanIV , + the fact that MonkeyKing 's Q has a terrible AD scaling. and his R takes too long to apply full dmg which could be denied/cc'd/shielded + healed + lifesteald.

I just checked your Op.gg , inb4 you tell me this "ain't your main account", and even if it is. the fact that in GOLD4 you only have 2 games with MonkeyKing , resulted in a terrible KDA and win ratio in general, so why couldnt you abuse his broken state and get a 4.0 KDA with 100% w.r?

don't link a champ's viability with an item when i can do the same with way better champs that can abuse item 3147 , Kayn Khazix Rengar Zed JarvanIV Jayce etc, that's not a smart move of you mate.

CatSithDec 6, 20172 votes

Wukong is abusing it. Only wukongs I see these days are full damage with item 3147 as first item.

Sun Wu RyuumokuDec 7, 20171 votes

its not an abuse, its intended to.

ThefrostyvikingDec 6, 20174 votes

Wukong doesn't even really use his R for kills anymore, just going in from a bush with Q-E-W-AA with duskblade is often enough to kill most squishy targets.

R is used at the end if they are still alive, or for big teamfights.

And he is the second best toplaner for lategame winrate wise, among all of them, and the very best for 30-40 minute games.

The reason he´s unpopular is because hes a dang monkey that has a staff, he doesn't appeal to most toplaners that like their big beefy champs like Darius, Jax, Sion or Yorick.

Or others.

And the LDR change ensures that marksmen do not get the full damage bonus against targets without enough health, it could be called a nerf to their midgame even.

Altho it's a lategame buff, but it's a needed one against Cho, maokai, sion and Rammus.

A pity for others who will suffer once again in the arms race between tanks and marksmen, the main victims being all the other melee's that like health.

Tychusfindlay918Dec 6, 20172 votes

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Wukong doesn't even really use his R for kills anymore, just going in from a bush with Q-E-W-AA with duskblade is often enough to kill most squishy targets.

R is used at the end if they are still alive, or for big teamfights.

And he is the second best toplaner for lategame winrate wise, among all of them, and the very best for 30-40 minute games.

The reason he´s unpopular is because hes a dang monkey that has a staff, he doesn't appeal to most toplaners that like their big beefy champs like Darius, Jax, Sion or Yorick.

Or others.

And the LDR change ensures that marksmen do not get the full damage bonus against targets without enough health, it could be called a nerf to their midgame even.

Altho it's a lategame buff, but it's a needed one against Cho, maokai, sion and Rammus.

A pity for others who will suffer once again in the arms race between tanks and marksmen, the main victims being all the other melee's that like health.

He's unpopular because his lane phase is fucking garbage tier trash and this meta is all about the early game.

Jungle wukong doesn't suffer from a trash lane phase.

ThefrostyvikingDec 6, 20171 votes

Is his laning really that bad? Most item 3134 users do have a really strong laning.

Altho i can imagine that the game before that is hard, but i seem to recall wukong with ignite being pretty good at cheesing out kills at lvl 2 and 3.

Sun Wu RyuumokuDec 7, 20171 votes

Is his laning really that bad?

its like hella bad. Even with ignite u can loose ur lane. Mainly if u are against a Olaf, Trynda, x tank, kennen, jayce, riven...

Dusk users are strong cause they lane against squishy champ on the mid lane and they have range tools unlike wu. Wukong mid is meh, unless for the cheese.

Wutop isn't strong if u have same level of ur opponent.

sometimes i do the mistake to take ignite with wu... but don't do this.

Ok sure but whyDec 6, 20178 votes

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UnboundHadesDec 6, 20173 votes

The ops comment was not toxic at all you got buthurt because he mentioned your rank so you decided to be the toxic one

JackMcSnipeyzDec 6, 20178 votes

Wukong is fine apart from his outdated passive. I've had wukong players snowball and assassinate everyone with duskblade.

A champ doesnt need to be FotM to be viable and wukong isnt in volibear's situation. Also looking at op.gg he has a consistant 51%+ winrate with an okay pickrate, so why mess with him.

MrHaZeYoDec 6, 20177 votes

Ya I hate the ldr buffs. Why can't tanks and bruisers live for longer then 2 seconds in a teamfight.

Wukong AirlinesDec 6, 201716 votes

poor Twitch needs more dmg because he aint killing tanks/juggs fast enoug

Faceroll TacticsDec 6, 20172 votes

He can't kill champions that built to counter him gods have mercy!

MysterQDec 6, 20172 votes

I think he is actually talking about their love interests. As a vastayan and a demigod bear, we want to know.

Glory ln DeathDec 6, 20172 votes

It's a nerf against any champion that ends the game at less than 3600 health. This is good for most bruisers.

SkorchDec 6, 20175 votes

Make an Edit

"Max health difference increased from 1000 to 200"

This is a big thing because what your post says now is LDR only goes up to 2.5% bonus physical damage and never higher.

Also IDK its a weird change that basically results in "That semi/tanky mage bruiser etc is gonna be less effected by LDR but tanks will take 5% more damage" sooo... Meh? I mean tanks ARE pretty strong and this affects like ONLY them.

Wukong AirlinesDec 6, 20172 votes

yeah just edited it missed the last 0.

basically, item 3036 is mostly bought on ADCs, im not saying AD casters won't buy it , but there are better options for them since most of them are melee and need extra stats to survive.

SkorchDec 6, 20176 votes

So where exactly is the issue here? I mean i know people hate ADCs. But this buff is pretty much "Tanks are unkillable and were giving ADCs whos pretty much the main tankkiller class to do... 5% more damage late game. And making it WORSE for ADCs against anyone who isnt a tank, so where is the crime here.

ModWulf HelhammerDec 6, 20173 votes

Because it's the boards, and anything that seems to favor ADCs instaly garners a Everest amount of hate, ignoring anything actually surrounding it and why it's implemented in the first place. Cause don't you know? ADCs are super OP and riot hates everything else besides them?

The Yetii RiderDec 6, 20174 votes

It gives more % damage to help people who are opting into killing tanks get past the huge armor that Aftershock gives.

More importantly, if people are buying LDR against Volibear, they're not buying Mortal Reminder, which is going to be a huge boon to you.

Faceroll TacticsDec 6, 20173 votes

Making one cheap item invalidate a keystone that you only get one of, while the person buying ldr gets to keep their keystone and their bonus damage after aftershock is over. K

The Yetii RiderDec 6, 20171 votes

Marksmen need to take time to activate Press the Attack, while Aftershock is nearly instantaneous. In any case, it doesn't really punish a bad tank since a bad tank can make sure a marksman dies in the first four seconds of a fight anyway. It only really hurts the tanks who make bad engages.

GayFluffyUnicornDec 6, 20173 votes

No it just helps against bruisers even more who are mostly high health low resists like irelia, camille, jax, kled etc. Whenever riot says they want to help fighters/bruisers they make sure to actually nerf them and make it look like a buff. Like the miniscule nerf to mao and ornn while massively buffing sunfire.

The Yetii RiderDec 6, 20171 votes

Well, those champions can easily counter that build by building more resistances. And in any case, marksmen do need to be able to kill these champions when they are at full build.

The PBE changes to Grasp of the Undying are a massive buff to juggernauts and divers. They'll get their turn.

An Undead bratDec 6, 20172 votes

Yeah but Volibear needs to rest in pieces - until his rework, because his current kit is a toxic pile of statchecking shit. I don't want another patch where he's strong and just runs over everything.

PoskeDec 6, 20173 votes

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Yeah but needs to rest in pieces - until his rework, because his current kit is a toxic pile of statchecking shit. I don't want another patch where he's strong and just runs over everything.

there wasnt a single patch in league history when he was over bearing.. sorry

ninjaroxasDec 6, 20171 votes

He feels unbearable to play against though

An Undead bratDec 6, 20171 votes

AHAHAHAHAHAA

I'm not laughing to your pun, I'm laughing at Boards' idiocy. Or short memory, no difference.

Sun Wu RyuumokuDec 6, 20172 votes

I agree for Wuking... But its a nerf for dominik

AirKingNeoDec 6, 20171 votes

Change it to 15% bonus damage and give it 5% more B-armor pen. Keeps it hurting tanks and not bruisers.

Antr0p0sDec 6, 20171 votes

Wait, whats the name of the white polar bear champion? Cant remember it...

MathixDec 6, 20171 votes

Wukong doesn't need to be touched, he's been in a good spot (pretty strong) for a long time. You can argue that duskblade makes him a little too strong but just like someone else pointed out, there's a lot of other champs that can abuse it just as much or even more.