Mages NEED A NERF

Ahristocats·4/19/2018, 12:30:43 PM·13 votes·2,791 views

stop using adcs as an argument the retardness of a class does not exclude the retardness of an other

mages have been overpowered for a year now, literally the only class that is viable in the mid lane and riot tried to buff zed a billion of time without any success of bringing him back except making him more aids to play because now you need to hit all of your shurikens to do damage

Remember about the thread complaining about mid lane being boring to play? how faker can't do anything? how faker can't play zed and make plays?

now riot makes mid lane less boring, less braindead, more skilled to play and people kneejerk massively

Just because adcs need a nerf(which will happen) does not mean mages are fine does not mean it's fine for mages to back buy a single cheap mana item and no longer have a ressource WHEN THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE LIMITED

hey remember this thing called mana? remember how spell casters are balanced around being limited? remember how this works IN EVERY SINGLE GAME? remember how lucian was never going oom so riot nerfed his Q mana cost which left him in the gutter since a year now?

but really really the best part is when the boards cry about powercreeping, but as soon as riot starts to nerf the big classes that dominate the game (adcs and mages) the boards randomly start to QQ massively create a hundred of threads per hours and upvote them like sheeps

i tell you axe, go through with the changes, make the game more diverse, give weaknesses to champions if the nerfs are harsh then you can go back a bit but for now please nerf mages with adcs

and then tanks

22 Comments

Scary Door4/19/2018, 3:44:00 PM5 votes

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mages have been overpowered for a year now, literally the only class that is viable in the mid lane and riot tried to buff zed a billion of time without any success of bringing him back except making him more aids to play because now you need to hit all of your shurikens to do damage

Champion : Winrate

Azir : 44.8% Ryze: 45.7% Kassadin: 46.0% Syndra: 46.6% Lissandra: 47.1% Zoe: 47.3% Viktor: 48.0% Orianna: 48.4% Taliyah: 49.0% Ziggs: 49.3% Diana: 49.4% Lux: 49.6% Xerath: 49.8%


Yasuo: 50.1% Zed: 50.7% Talon: 51.0% Mordekeiser: 51.9%

Oh, I'm sorry, what was it you were saying? Something about mages being overpowered? Please, tell me more of your fantastic story.

Kelg4/19/2018, 3:05:55 PM5 votes

Anivia Xerath Zoe Ziggs Orianna are annoying af and should be able to run out of mana

Aptest4/19/2018, 12:33:15 PM4 votes

Mrs Sona, don't you think Supports need nerf too?

RAINBOW GUMDROPS4/19/2018, 2:45:55 PM4 votes

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Malix Farwin4/19/2018, 4:39:30 PM4 votes

I am more than willing to accept arguments if they at least do the following:

A real attempt at a conversation Lined with rational thought Make compelling arguments

You OP are using derogatory language to try and make your argument sound strong, "the retardness of a class does not exclude the retardness of an other", what does that even mean?

You also didn't do your research and see why people are against the nerf.

Mages right now are not performing any more differently then they have been for over a year, it's bot lane that has not only change but has had a major impact on the meta in doing so.

saltran4/19/2018, 12:34:44 PM2 votes

Well said

Jinzo Torrance4/19/2018, 4:20:15 PM2 votes

Looking forward to teams in competitive opting for full AD comps or picking champion like Fizz who need to snowball and land their ult on the ADC when they pick consistently 3 tanks per game just because mages will lose 3-4 AP from Seraph

Dark Nephthys4/19/2018, 4:51:08 PM2 votes

Ah yes "Mages are the only class viable mid" right? Want to talk about how ADCs are the only class viable for Bot lane? No?

We mages are mad because of how they are nerfing the class, not really that they're nerfing the class...Then again, we already been getting nerfed a lot and the amount of AP we lost over the past few seasons is insane. In fact, now AD items are almost as strong as AP items which is sad.

This infinite mana problem that Riot and others are complaining about really started when Archangel went to 1400 max mana. Honestly they should just remove the 400 mana off of Archangel that they added, and maybe give it back 15-20 AP...then don't bother with this stupid base mana/level nerf.

Because it's sad if this mana gutting goes through because then everyone would have more mana than Mages do at level 18...Even ADCs and tanks would have around 200-300 more mana than the average mage would...

OR better yet, they could just give a small nerf to the mages who are the worst offenders and not gutt an entire class for a select few. Yes I know that might also include Anivia and she is my main, but I can probably learn and adapt with her...but what I'm really worried about would be what happens to Velkoz Ziggs which are my other mid laners who are already doing poorly right now...this will put them in the gutter even more.

Mizaya4/19/2018, 2:56:13 PM2 votes

How do you think this change will go?

I'm of the opinion that it's a good idea to try and nerf the midlane strategy of endlessly waveclearing to essentially force an even lane while accelerating game pace with no-risk roaming. Compound that with bot lane nerfs and we have a healthier game.

CyberBalt4/20/2018, 12:38:03 AM1 votes

I think the change would have been a lot better received if they did this change AFTER nerfing adcs, but to everyone here it looks like they're just giving bot lane a pass and hammering mages instead.