So...Tanks...

Handy Sandy ··3 votes·486 views

A Darius had 3.2k health, tons of defense, I could barely make a dent in him with my full combo with items when I was ahead of him by like 4-5 kills. Now, some tanks have around 4k health, but 3k is just too much. Also, they deal a ton of damage. Imagine going up against a whole team full of champions that do the same, if not more damage than an ADC with the health and defense of a tank.

How is this ok? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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EndlessSorcerer3 votes

Darius is a juggernaut (which is a subclass of fighters), not a tank.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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Darius is a juggernaut (which is a subclass of fighters), not a tank.

Amumu without items gets 2041 health, 88 defense, and 53 magic resist but his primary role is tank. Darius without items gets 2282 health, 97 defense, and 53 magic resist while his primary role is fighter. He has more health and defense than amumu and is about the same as Skarner. This isn't okay, he still ends up with over 3k health with just one item, and does tons of damage when he's in range which isn't a problem with his Q.

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

Base stats are not the difference between fighters and tanks. The difference is how they threaten the enemy team.

  • Tanks are primarily a threat due to their utility/CC
  • Fighters are primarily a threat due to their damage

Amumu is a threat primarily due to the strength of his Q and his ultimate. While he has decent damage and can be built AP-heavy, he's primarily used for the strength of his initiations.

Darius is a threat primarily due to his damage. While his E and slow provide some utility, he's primarily used for his ability to damage targets.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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Base stats are not the difference between fighters and tanks. The difference is how they threaten the enemy team.

  • Tanks are primarily a threat due to their utility/CC
  • Fighters are primarily a threat due to their damage

Amumu is a threat primarily due to the strength of his Q and his ultimate. While he has decent damage and can be built AP-heavy, he's primarily used for the strength of his initiations.

Darius is a threat primarily due to his damage. While his E and slow provide some utility, he's primarily used for his ability to damage targets.

Oh, thanks for clearing things up for me.

ZT Xperimentor3 votes

You're overlooking something, crowd control. Darius has a very short ranged pull & a small slow, while amumu has a huge gap closer & sizable area stun.

EvilUnicornLord2 votes

He's also too strong of a champion. When the only counterplay tactic as a melee champion is to stay out of flash+Apprehend range and wait for a gank opportunity because you cannot win a trade alone, then you know he's a broken champion.

Caítlyn1 votes

inb4 some idiots come in here to say "Darius is not a tank blah blah"

Does it get 1 shot by a Veigar combo? No? Then its a tank.

[Edit] I was too late

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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A Darius had 3.2k health, tons of defense, I could barely make a dent in him with my full combo with items when I was ahead of him by like 4-5 kills. Now, some tanks have around 4k health, but 3k is just too much. Also, they deal a ton of damage. Imagine going up against a whole team full of champions that do the same, if not more damage than an ADC with the health and defense of a tank.

How is this ok? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Link the match history.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2262664588/234410108?tab=overview

So Darius built mostly health and magic resistance, which counters Syndra's single target magic damage burst very well. He also might have literally invalidated the first ability you used with his banshee's veil shield, basically making it so that you had one less spell.

He also had no boots, lol wtf. It should be very easy to kite a Darius with no boots.

As a burst mage you're not meant to be able to do much damage to high health and resistance targets. Leave that to sustained damage champions like Tristana or Yi, who are on your team. You can still damage Darius if he is the only person you can safely target in a team fight but don't expect to be doing the bulk of the damage to him. Your job is to kill the fuck ass back line. You could easily one combo the Jhin.

If you want to do good damage to champs like Darius as a mid lane mage I'd suggest Cassiopiea. Her sustained damage and kiting potential makes her very good at it.

Oh, and I'd highly recommend Rylai's against that team. It's very good against Darius and Shyvana since they have little to no mobility.

Bronzoid1 votes

Tanks are broken, nothing new. Base damage is out of control.

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