Getting pretty tired of not getting keys...

USG Failsawce·Jun 7, 2016·4 votes·520 views

I understand that the amount becomes substantially less over a month or so. However, I got only one or two in one week, and haven't seen a single one in two weeks since then.

Meanwhile I'm on my 4th chest without a key, and have another one coming up soon.

Can we either change the formula for how often these drop, vs how easy it is to get chests. Or make some sort of combination of 3 chests = one key, and vice versa too (since apparently some people can't get any chests due to not getting S's, via last post I made about this)?

15 Comments

MLDzXnRRRJun 7, 20162 votes

You can buy keys, if you need them so much.

Pandemic PunchJun 7, 20162 votes

I stopped getting key frags and am sitting on 3 chests. I think the key drop should = the amount of chests per month.

DragfinJun 7, 20162 votes

I got 10 chests and opened them all, 11 if you count the free one they gave at the beginning. Fact is, you can only get one chest per champ per season. Eventually you will be able to open them all because very few will be getting 52 chests in a season. That is only if the season is in fact 52 weeks long which I don't think it is. They are free from playing the game. They will drop when they drop, just keep winning and don't worry about them. If you are that impatient then you are the person that Riot has targeted with RP keys and they have done their jobs.

aLawfulFalafelJun 9, 20161 votes

^^ THIS PEOPLE ^^ THIS

CandyxoJun 7, 20161 votes

I haven't been getting key fragments either, however I'm wondering if when I've played champions that I don't own and it alerts me "you must own the champion to earn the key/chest" if those count toward the times that you are able to receive the frags?

I'm not sure if it's a bug or working as intended.

I feel your pain tho, I have several boxes but no keys or fragments.

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You can buy keys, if you need them so much.

Yes we could buy keys np, but I rather just use RP to buy the skins I really want, and use the key fragments/chests for bonus surprises.

I like the hextech system it's a fun little side game if you will, I just wish I was able to find more information on how it is supposed to work exactly, when I read Riots initial blog post on the subject, it didn't really make a whole lot of sense to me until I actually saw it working in action, but even still unanswered questions are around!

MrPharmDJun 8, 20161 votes

Not earning key fragments on the champs that you don't own is a bug. Not sure when they will fix it. It certainly doesn't seem to be a priority for them.

Anyway, the system starts off giving you X% chance of getting a key fragment per game. Once you start getting some, the % chance drops...and it drops DRAMATICALLY. So basically after getting a couple, typically seems to be about 2 full keys, they become near impossible to get. The drop rate resets about 30 days after your first key fragment was collected.

I think it's great that they offer free stuff, I just wish the amounts matched up. Like, make it so we can only get 3 chests per month. Then they key rate per month would seem better...since you could roughly get the same amount of keys as chests. I think they do it like they do to try and get people to buy the keys. It's like hotdogs. Who the hell thought of selling hotdogs in packs of 6/12, but selling hot dog buns in packs of 8? It doesn't make sense lol.

USG FailsawceJun 8, 20161 votes

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I think it's great that they offer free stuff, I just wish the amounts matched up.

Exactly, this is all I was saying.

MrPharmDJun 8, 20161 votes

I would be happy with them dropping the box rate to 3 so it would match up haha. I mean, only my OCD talking. I'm not good enough yet to spend money on the game to buy keys, which is what their purpose is....at least in my opinion.

CandyxoJun 9, 20161 votes

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It's like hotdogs. Who the hell thought of selling hotdogs in packs of 6/12, but selling hot dog buns in packs of 8? It doesn't make sense lol.

I love that you brought this up, lol.

aLawfulFalafelJun 7, 20161 votes

i went a 2 week period without receiving a key fragment, had a few chests saved up by the time i even earned one fragment

but eventually things will balance out and flow the other way and you will have more keys than chests

one chest per champ per season means limited chests received, however since there is no actual limit to fragments they should be more rare to feel valuable in any way upon receiving one not to mention if a summoner is sitting on say, 80 keys, while having no chests they will complain about not receiving enough chests aka not only are you complaining about free stuff, but you're complaining about the system they use to keep this meaningful to us summoners for as long as possible

TLDR you misspelled "thank you Riot for the free stuff"

USG FailsawceJun 8, 20161 votes

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i went a 2 week period without receiving a key fragment, had a few chests saved up by the time i even earned one fragment

but eventually things will balance out and flow the other way and you will have more keys than chests

one chest per champ per season means limited chests received, however since there is no actual limit to fragments they should be more rare to feel valuable in any way upon receiving one not to mention if a summoner is sitting on say, 80 keys, while having no chests they will complain about not receiving enough chests aka not only are you complaining about free stuff, but you're complaining about the system they use to keep this meaningful to us summoners for as long as possible

TLDR you misspelled "thank you Riot for the free stuff"

This logic is severely flawed in so many ways.

First of all, I'm trying to get to mastery 6-7 on some champs, and apparently I cannot do it without opening chests. Or maybe this is the part that needs changing, more than the keys/chests?

Secondly, key frags ARE limited. They're limited by how many consecutive ones you can get, which limits the amount you can get in a year overall as well. The problem being, as myself, my friends, others on these boards, and even the people in this thread have pointed out... getting chests are much easier to get. It shouldn't have to "even out eventually" and it won't. Unless you play only the same few champs all year, and get no chests.

They even purposely made it so that casual players can get as many keys as people who play more often, which was smart (I guess). But it needs tweaking, and more keys for both sides need dropping, to match the amount of chests.

And I'm sorry to say this, but if every person on league has access to this "free stuff" it loses it's meaning and no longer becomes "free stuff" that Riot is just generously handing to us. I'm not complaining about said "free stuff" either, I am complaining that the system is flawed, yes. Because it is. This is what discussions are for, sometimes Rioters read, and realize that maybe they could tweak something a little. It's called constructive criticism.

In the end what's wrong with a suggestion to make it so you can forge 3 chests or 3 keys into the other? Or are you really that hard bent on arguing against "free stuff" for the community?

aLawfulFalafelJun 9, 20161 votes

hahahahaha omg lmao hahahhahahha wow are you dense or what bud

this isn't constructive criticism, this is just complaining about free stuff which makes me quite upset as a fellow summoner

yes the system is flawed, but so what? weigh your options, free stuff riot DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU or nothing at all

seriously, riot gives free stuff and people are complaining, why in gods name should riot give you anything for free? they give you the game, people complain, they give free skins, people complain. All you're doing is encouraging riot to never give free stuff anymore! where are your manners? say thank you ffs or are you really THAT ungrateful?

put yourself in riots shoes, how would YOU feel if u gave a bunch of people free stuff, and very few said thank you and the rest just whined and moaned about little INSIGNIFICANT things, "problems" with your free stuff?

i honestly hope riot takes note of all the ungrateful, spoiled, rotten people who complain instead of saying thank you and simply remove hextech crafting from their accounts. BOOM problem solved!

i mean seriously, i don't give 2 sh!ts how long it takes to get anything, in the end i get free stuff (@Riot thanks) i got bad Santa veigar (thanks riot) i got pharaoh nidalee (thanks riot) i have the option to get def not udyr AND gentleman chogath if i want (thanks Riot)

so before you say anything else, sum up the cost of these 4 skins i have as if real money was paid and REALLY think about what you're saying next, because this is nothing but a potential net loss for Riot and yet they hooked me up, they hooked you up, they hooked us all up with easily 20$ worth of stuff FOR FREE

and yet, you cry about HOW they handed you the free stuff? i seriously hope they remove your hextech crafting from your account

we didn't even say please and Riot delivered and now apparently we cant say thank you? how is riot supposed to even have respect for their player base when this is the kind of respect we show to them?

seriously ungrateful

do you understand yet how disappointed i am in you right now?

because im pretty disappointed, very actually, very disappointed

@Riot thank you very much

USG FailsawceJun 8, 20161 votes

Just want to point out too, this wouldn't necessarily mean money loss for Rito. There will still be players who want to buy whats missing to open what they do have, rather than combing. And still be players who will buy stuff flat out, with rp.

If anything, Dynamic Queue is the reason for lower population and less money spent. Maybe if they made players happy and brought back Solo Queue or fixed ranked in some other way - they wouldn't need to release this sort of system to try and grab more $$ from players.

BakedLotionJun 8, 20161 votes

Guys its already confirmed the key rate goes to shit after your2nd or 3rd chest. It resets monthly which is why you get a massive amount for a few days then they stop coming. Its pretty stupid because i have 4 chests in my inventory that cant be opened. Its impossible to open all 4 chests per month because you wont be getting keys after opening 2 or 3.

USG FailsawceJun 8, 20161 votes

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Guys its already confirmed the key rate goes to shit after your2nd or 3rd chest. It resets monthly which is why you get a massive amount for a few days then they stop coming. Its pretty stupid because i have 4 chests in my inventory that cant be opened. Its impossible to open all 4 chests per month because you wont be getting keys after opening 2 or 3.

I'm pretty sure we all understand that, and have understood it for a while now...

We understand that they need to reset, and the amounts don't match up even after they do. We're asking that they fix it or add something to it, so they DO match.