pick a bruiser. preferably one with a strong early.
know what 
absolutely cannot beat at any point if against a slightly competent player?
seriously. fuck whoever says you're trolling. all of these champs EAT all of those assassins
Zakennayo3 votesFirst off:
Is garbage.
Second:
can shit on all those champions, even Fiora and Riven. Zed might be a problem, but that's cause he's broken and easy to play.
Finally:
W+R combo beats all.
The Bard Dog5 votesFirst off:
Second:
Finally:
have you noticed all of them have displacements, stuns, or some form of damage immunity? kat loses to all of them. sorry pal.
your leblanc point i can agree with.
what im say is, bruisers are the way to beat MELEE ASSASSINS.
Darius after his first back laughs as kat tries to harass him with q and he has a 
. he can also e to disrupt kats ult. not to mention how much burst he has.
Fiora r's as soon as kat ults.
jax q to a minion/ward the second kat ults
jayce hammer+e displaces kats ult.
irelia can e to stun kat out of ult, then proceed to eat her alive with true damage w+r+q
xin can knock her up
lee can kick her.
you know what beats katarina? sustain. if she can't poke you down with q+w, she can't do anything once she gets her ult. i had almost 100 games as kat last season. i know exactly how to beat her. i've also had 20+games against kat as darius, riven, jayce, and xin zhao.
Zakennayo1 voteshave you noticed all of them have displacements, stuns, or some form of damage immunity? kat loses to all of them. sorry pal.
your leblanc point i can agree with.
what im say is, bruisers are the way to beat MELEE ASSASSINS.
Darius after his first back laughs as kat tries to harass him with q and he has a
Fiora r's as soon as kat ults.
jax q to a minion/ward the second kat ults
jayce hammer+e displaces kats ult.
irelia can e to stun kat out of ult, then proceed to eat her alive with true damage w+r+q
xin can knock her up
lee can kick her.
you know what beats katarina? sustain. if she can't poke you down with q+w, she can't do anything once she gets her ult. i had almost 100 games as kat last season. i know exactly how to beat her. i've also had 20+games against kat as darius, riven, jayce, and xin zhao.
Want to know what Kat beats? Everyone. Except LeBroken and Zed... Too much damage too quick and too safe..
See that? You need the big 3 to take out Kat.
Riven, yeah she has a stun, which she would most likely pop incorrectly.
Fiora is extremely squishy, a QEW combo would easily chunk half her health, the 15% damage reduction will lower her ult damage.
You mean E right? His Q is a hop, W is empower, and E is the dodge thing that stuns. Which is totally easy to see coming. A Kat can QEW and walk away. Or just take the stun and ult him down right after.
Irelia's e only stuns if her health % is greater. So QEW, Irelia will stun to attempt a get away, finish off with an ult.
Xin can knock up on third hit, meaning a QEW combo will be able to get her in and out easily. Basically he's a free poke.
Lee can kick once every 50 seconds, you're better off using the W to escape.
Kat really needs to get her E damage reduction removed, and her passive only activate on every 3 champ kill/assist.
The Bard Dog5 votesWant to know what Kat beats? Everyone. Except LeBroken and Zed... Too much damage too quick and too safe..
See that? You need the big 3 to take out Kat.
Riven, yeah she has a stun, which she would most likely pop incorrectly.
Fiora is extremely squishy, a QEW combo would easily chunk half her health, the 15% damage reduction will lower her ult damage.
You mean E right? His Q is a hop, W is empower, and E is the dodge thing that stuns. Which is totally easy to see coming. A Kat can QEW and walk away. Or just take the stun and ult him down right after.
Irelia's e only stuns if her health % is greater. So QEW, Irelia will stun to attempt a get away, finish off with an ult.
Xin can knock up on third hit, meaning a QEW combo will be able to get her in and out easily. Basically he's a free poke.
Lee can kick once every 50 seconds, you're better off using the W to escape.
Kat really needs to get her E damage reduction removed, and her passive only activate on every 3 champ kill/assist.
its ok. in my hundreds of games of experience against katarinas, i rarely lose as any of these champions i play because i counter build against her, and wait for her to drop her ultimate. but go ahead and complain that kat leblanc and zed are broken when really, you're just not thinking hard enough about what beats them.
i mean hell, your argument for riven was "oh she'll probably use her stun wrong" your argument for irelia was "i can scare her into e'ing me after i blow my full non-ultimate combo on her your argument for xin implies he doesn't have sustain built into his kit, along with a gapcloser and 2 displacements. your argument for lee is that his ult is a 50 second cd. last i checked that's shorter than kat's without resets. your argument for jax is that he's predictable. he sure is. but kat is MUCH more predictable. all of your arguments for these champions imply that they WON'T use their insane level 1 and level 2 advantages at the start. and if they don't then it's nto because kat is broken. its because they're stupid.
Zakennayo1 votesits ok. in my hundreds of games of experience against katarinas, i rarely lose as any of these champions i play because i counter build against her, and wait for her to drop her ultimate. but go ahead and complain that kat leblanc and zed are broken when really, you're just not thinking hard enough about what beats them.
So gg for playing against the worst Kats ever!
I've only ever lost to LeBroken or Zed. Never against any of those champions listed their.
The Bard Dog2 votesSo gg for playing against the worst Kats ever!
I've only ever lost to LeBroken or Zed. Never against any of those champions listed their.
that's because no one ever picks them. all of these champions EAT KATARINA ON PAPER BECAUSE THEY HAVE MEANS OF DISRUPTING HER ULT.
Zakennayo1 votesthat's because no one ever picks them. all of these champions EAT KATARINA ON PAPER BECAUSE THEY HAVE MEANS OF DISRUPTING HER ULT.
People pick them.
And then get shit on by Kat.
The Bard Dog2 votesPeople pick them.
And then get shit on by Kat.
ok pal. you're 100% riot. katarina is the most op of the ops out there. along with zed who also gets countered by all the people i listed. along with leblanc who is also extremely squishly and vulnerable to rush down.
Zakennayo1 votesok pal. you're 100% riot. katarina is the most op of the ops out there. along with zed who also gets countered by all the people i listed. along with leblanc who is also extremely squishly and vulnerable to rush down.
Yeah if you can catch her with her double/triple flash.
The Bard Dog2 votesYeah if you can catch her with her double/triple flash. hit her the second she initiates. gg.
Abyssphere1 votesIF you can catch her.
How the hell is it possible to NOT catch her after she initiates? Shunpo isn't gonna pull a reset out of nowhere and Kat is not going to wait for Flash to come off cooldown to go in.
Zakennayo1 votesHow the hell is it possible to NOT catch her after she initiates? Shunpo isn't gonna pull a reset out of nowhere and Kat is not going to wait for Flash to come off cooldown to go in.
Cause when she actually does initiate, it will be cause you're already dead. No decent Kat player is stupid enough to initiate a heavy hitter at full HP.
Old Man Teeto2 votesRiven, Fiora, Jayce.... are not bruisers.
TehNACHO2 votesEhh, Riven comes marginally close to the definition, given a defensive use of her shield and that she likes Life Steal.
But yeah, Fiora and Jayce are straight up Carry/Burst champions, if anything.
The Bard Dog1 votesRiven, Fiora, Jayce.... are not bruisers.
jayce is the middle ground for bruiser's/ad carries. fiora isn't sure. but riven definitely is.
3tyson2 votesIts true i main nid and bruisers you can not handle...
RIP Tahm Kench1 votesI have a better suggestion that doesn't attempt to break the meta, just pick Chogath. Max your silence first and poke them down with it. Don't even think about building tank unless you get far behind, your ult stacks are more than enough to survive their burst with an abyssal/chalice/hourglass.
IcyPepper2 votesthat doesn't attempt to break the meta
What's wrong with breaking the meta if it's a viable strategy? Must mid lane only be mages and assassins? If an assassin is countered by a specific champion, then what's wrong with taking that champion to a certain lane?
Look at the pros taking stuff like Morgana top or Janna mid (way before her nerfs). Annie support had to start somewhere. This guy might have figured something out, and maybe people will find it's effective.
When strategy is involved, the meta is the result, not always the cause. The meta changes for a reason. Patches, counters, and champion kits. Is mid lane the best lane for the champions? Probably not. But if they can counter a champion, it's worth at least experimenting.
RIP Tahm Kench1 votesYou latched onto the completely wrong statement in my post. Did I say I have a problem with breaking the meta? No. I even watch Solwolf's Break the Meta videos for fun.
Abyssphere1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mr MM No Chat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=45nhaPFb,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2015-03-17T10:28:34.678+0000)
You latched onto the completely wrong statement in my post. Did I say I have a problem with breaking the meta? No. I even watch Solwolf's Break the Meta videos for fun.
In all fairness the fact that you specifically decided to offer a solution that "doesn't break the meta" kinda made it look like you had a problem with doing that. I can see how it got misconstrued.
IcyPepper1 votesWhat Mother said. I"m sorry, but that's how it came across. My apologies.
Also, I love Solwolf. He inspired me to give jungle Morgana a shot.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesWho the fk plays mid lane?
just pure bronze freelo, but in the case of assassin meta, it's k.
The Bard Dog2 votesWho the fk plays
i play darius and jax at mid when i see someone they specifically counter in mid.
bad arcade kitty1 voteslolwhat nidalee handles bruisers just fine (they picked her top like forever btw), kata handles some of them fine too, same is true for akali, diana is amazing vs bruisers too, fizz and zed are fine too, not sure about yasuo
actually you should pick something like malzahar
