A Question About Champion Mastery And Ranked

Stephenizgod··1 votes·366 views

So i finally saw the Champion Mastery Q&A idk how i missed that :( unfortunately i didnt get to ask questions there so ill do that here, if anyone can chime in and answer that would be most appreciated. I saw an interesting comment about how your points are based on how well you performed compared to everyone else who plays that champion, which got me thinking about ranked. So my question is about ranked.

So i was wondering if the same thing couldnt be applied to Ranked?

Like take someone and compare them to other people in that MMR and give or take LP based on that rather then on just wins or loss. This is different then KDA because if you are playing someone like Garen and build him AD you are going to get more kills then Tank Garen. So you would compare someone playing Tank Garen to all Tank Garens, and AD Garens to all AD Garens. I know its not as simple as that but im just using it as an example. My reasons for this is that while it is a team game, sometimes your team is not as good as your opponents or you. Im not just talking about having a better KDA, im talking about wards, objectives, getting caught out multiple times in the same fashion, targeting the wrong opponents, etc. Thus people who do perform even slightly better then their team in all these aspects are held down by their teams This creates an imbalance in lower MMR's where really good people are being caged in Bronze and Silver because they are not quite good enough to carry a whole team. This also creates situations where someone with Gold-Plat levels of skill is fighting someone of Bronze-Silver levels of skill and utterly destroying them.

With this system implemented that guy who is constantly going 23/2 Vayne, warding good, taking objectives when they need to, teamfighting when they need to, CSing great, they are rewarded for performing excellent faster and not punished as hard when he gets a team that could not perform. The problem with the current system is that you can go on a streak of doing really well both KDA and objectives, warding, etc. and still lose and all your hard work doesn't matter simply because you do not outweigh your teammates lack of skill.

Note: I am not talking about myself, i still have a lot to improve on with objectives and warding. Im mostly talking about teammates and enemies i have seen that were just obviously better then everyone else in almost all aspects and still lose, they talk of a place some say do not exist others say is all too real... They call this place ELO Hell

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Stephenizgod1 votes

I'm sure a lot of people will look up my rank and how well i do and all that so ill just tell you. Im currently Silver IV and i play mostly Top Garen. My KDA is not that bad with him, but i need a lot of work on CSing and how to roam. Lately i have been duoing with my partner and going up against a lot of really good gold players and have learned im not quite at their level yet. I also Support alot but i dont like doing it so much mostly because it seems my ADC never wants to go in when i land a good bubble and then rage at me i need to land more bubbles. I do not Jungle or ADC in ranked, im trying to practice but honestly neither of those roles are any fun.

So there feel free to look me up idrc, but i just thought i would save you some times. If my system drops me down in ranked then thats fine as long as it further places everyone where they should be. Im just tired of vast differences in skills all being in the same game, i won 2 games in a row 22 to 3 and it seemed only 1-2 people on their team knew what they were doing but could not carry their team at all. This needs to stop and it happens all too often, either a team gets stomped bad or they stomp the other team bad, there is rarely a fair fight.

BluePolarizer1 votes

real elo hell is plat, sorry.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Well by that logic everything below Diamond is elo hell?

BluePolarizer1 votes

elo hell doesn't mean ppl play bad, it means ppl are ragers, lose on purpose and AFK for not listening to them. I play with both high golds (1/2) and low plats (4/5), I dread the plats and love the golds. The golds are always motivated to win, keep silent or make helpful calls, and don't give up because they aren't personally carrying but the lanes are all ahead.

Plats, on the other hand, have done:

was 7-3 mid. Gets 4 man tower dived. Dies. "nub bot and jg cant even ward river" sells items and AFKs.

gg ff 20 nub jg when I was doing red and they are losing lane at the 3 minute mark.

takes my jungle farm as a lane bully that falls off but has already failed at bullying, and actually have the audacity to ping me away from their lane farm when they aren't even there (stealing my jungle after all), despite me playing a carry jungler like Yi or Hecarim that's snowballing hard.

played jungle Malphite and tells us to go in. We go in, he starts autoing the enemy ADC (not even ulting). we get caught and theres a teamfight, but no one else can get to the ADC. He says "nub team doesnt know how to focus", so ults over a wall to run away, sells items and dances at fountain. We were ahead.

A j4 top afks at fountain when score was 10-3 because he was 0-3, and "trash jungler didnt deserve to win"

surrender spammers when the score is close.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Yes i know what ELO Hell is... i played several games yesterday and believe me i am in ELO Hell...

My jungler in pre-game lobby said "take tele noob" because i was taking Ignite against Renekton, i usually take Ignite into lanes im going to stomp hard and then roam. So the moment the game starts he starts purposely feeding Renekton and continues doing so for the rest of the game.... all because i didnt take Teleport... meanwhile him and the enemy team are rapid fire typing "noob" the whole time... its not even an insult anymore so it didnt even make me mad, it actually made me a laugh a bit because right then and there i knew he was like 11-12 years old. The sad thing is that i was still beating the hell out of Renekton, with ignite, until it got to the point where he was so fed he could 2 shot me.

Played another game where someone picked Fizz jung just because they wanted to try the jungle and Fizz, they thought it was a perfect time to try both.

Played a game where someone saw Braum and said "Braum Top? Wtf" and picked Taric... well apparently he couldnt be bothered to look above Braum and see Riven who was top and was forced to Jungle... didnt work out.

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