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TyrekGoldenspear6 votes

Are you talking about DRAAAAAAAAVEN when his team is dumping shields on him 24/7?

Ahristocats2 votes

during the moment leblanc dashed to when he killed jhin he received 3 shields

if death dance had 10% damage mitigation instead of 30%, he would have died to jhin 4th shot+lb chain

then, he tanked more damage than a malphite with his sustain

ME UNGA ME SMASH2 votes

8 shields total in the clip, 1 redemption, has deaths dance and phantom dancer. I'm not saying it's fair, but it makes sense considering the circumstances. He also had excellent peel from his team mates, and was allowed to dps like an adc should. I don't see what the issue is. Plenty of adc's can do similar things to this given the right circumstances.

Ahristocats1 votes

first no, from the moment leblanc jumped, to when he killed jhin (the teamfight was over here) he received 3 shields

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has deaths dance and phantom dancer.

i don't care what he had

facetanking an assassin and a burst adc without giving a fuck should not happen in any way

ME UNGA ME SMASH1 votes

Jhin didnt have enough burst to get through the shields when he re-engaged him, and leblanc missed her full combo because she got hit by his stand aside, which was really well played on his part I must say. Expecting Jhin to burst down a Draven who has far superior dps considering both of their builds is kind of silly, especially with the amount Draven could heal in comparison to Jhin. It may seem like he just stood there and face tanked for eternity, but his team and his own play kept him alive.

SnakDatSmilesBak2 votes

If adcs can face tank burst and assassins and burn through tanks, what's the counterplay to them? What's the counterplay to a "shield adc" comp?

Ralanr3 votes

Splitpushing maybe?

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

So you need to have a split pusher on your team or you lose? Seems awfully specific but good advice I guess.

Ralanr1 votes

The basic counter to teamfight focused comps is comps that force them to be divided.

ME UNGA ME SMASH1 votes

There's always counterplay. Always.

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

Alright...? I asked what it is to find out what the counterplay is. Not to prove a point.

Penns3 votes

Gotta love the new season 7 front line tanks aka adcs with their Lulu/Janna/Soraka/Karma/Ivern lul

Ahristocats1 votes

but it's ok, fizz had his burst delayed, he will totally be able to deal with that

kappa

Big Lincoln2 votes

shield comps are stupid, big shock

nerf draven tho

Ralanr2 votes

Honestly with enough sustain, anyone is tankier than a tank in fights (especially since a lot of tanks lack actually sustain since they're only good against burst, with dps being an intended weakness). Combine that with shields, and the adc will never die.

I'm honestly surprised that Koggy isn't meta right now. The shields meta seems perfect for him.

Rebonack1 votes

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Honestly with enough sustain, anyone is tankier than a tank in fights (especially since a lot of tanks lack actually sustain since they're only good against burst, with dps being an intended weakness). Combine that with shields, and the adc will never die.

I'm honestly surprised that Koggy isn't meta right now. The shields meta seems perfect for him.

The item changes saddled Kog with several nasty indirect nerfs. Believe it or not, the increased MR on soft targets probably hit him the hardest.

Jmman2 votes

Totally cool bro. We got this we took away spell vamp and fix it all.... oh wait.... yea that sustain was ad is its ok. You know the skill cap and things.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

oh my god the tanky renek was actually occupying the backline instead of hiding behind his adc

i wish i was in your elo

Rebonack1 votes

He had both Ivern and Janna tag-team shielding him. That's going to make anyone obnoxious to kill.

I counted seven individual shield instances. And that's in addition to the Janna Ult heal and the Redemption active.

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