Why are people complaining about new Akali's mobillity?

D357R0Y3R··63 votes·15,808 views

"with akali rework it's going to be so unfair to play immobile champions"

"mobility creep is retarded"

??

she loses her blink on W, instead gets a CONDITIONAL 600 range dash because she has to hit a skillshot that skillshot has 16 seconds cd her ult cd got increased to 120 sec the reset on ult got removed the range on her ult got reduced

what's wrong with new akali's mobility?

103 Comments

FridgesArePpl237 votes

Because these boards complain about literally everything

Melledoneus15 votes

Shen's slow on his Q is oppressive.

Please nerf it to 3.5% thank you OP mongoloid champ

Need Gold 4 Tent3 votes

you'd have to build triforce now to apply all 3 hits of the Q. And go hail of blades.

ModCaptainMårvelous31 votes

what's wrong with new akali's mobility?

The fact that she has mobility at all I guess. Guess people were hoping Akali wouldn't have any dashes and instead had to slowly walk up to you.

The DrBonjigollo2 votes

Isn’t that what Assassins do?

Salron8 votes

{quoted} Guess people were hoping Akali wouldn't have any dashes and instead had to slowly walk up to you.

A-And downsmash?

ModCaptainMårvelous5 votes

"That ain't Akali!" - r/akalimains

StillHittinLicks1 votes

Its too much mobility. Zed can only blink twice. Yasuo can only dash through 1 unit per 10 seconds. Fizz's inv move has a LONG cd, and without landing it, he cant really trade. Kat's only mobile move is shunpo, and only does damage if it retrieves a dagger. Akali can dash 3 times, shroud, and has a 600 meter dash at that. NO champion is that mobile. Not even pyke. Not to mention, you cant even place a pink to find where she is in the shroud or target her with point clicks. She is too mobile. Shes so mobile that you cant trade with her. She can shroud, attack, gain energy, repeat. No assassin is like this. After an assassin champ goes all in, they're done. Not with Akali though. She can go forever. Its not like with Zed or Kat when you have to really plan how to use your skills to gain a kill. If Zed misses his shurikens, its over, If Yasuo misses his nado, its over, if kat mis shunpo's to a dagger, its over. Akali, none of that matters because you cant SEE her but she can SEE you.

KennysDreamGirl1 votes

i think you completely missed the point. we are talking about new akali here

StillHittinLicks1 votes

im talking about new akali too?...

ValentDs3 votes

new akali have 2 dash in 120 seconds...

StillHittinLicks2 votes

Her e is a dash too.

KennysDreamGirl3 votes

"Akali can dash 3 times, shroud,"

no you aren't. for one, akali has only 2 dashes now and they are skillshots so she can miss the damage on them. shroud doesnt blink anymore and she doesnt have resets for ult.

Velzard of Koz1 votes

2 dashes? She can dash with E and twice with ult. She has MS boost towards circle, once she crosses the circle and inside shroud. The only ability not giving her any way to fuck up any skillshot-based champion is her Q.

But I do like the "She must hit skillshot" and "Her ult has 120 cd" excuses. There are champions who must hit 4 skillshots to do their job and those who have equally high cd on ultimate.

EDIT: And this is excluding the backflip she does with E, lol.

KennysDreamGirl1 votes

ok ill take the l on this. I forgot about the e

Smart Girl2 votes

right! like https://i.imgur.com/Ed4LdEW.jpg what do you want if they had it their way that's what she would do

YuGiHo5 votes

what kind of ninja dosn't have a dash?

ModCaptainMårvelous4 votes

"A balanced one" - Gameplay

EinarUlfar22 votes

Boards often reacts to things at face-value.

New Akali has high CDs, conditional damage, and as a result she has a strong diving tool. The stealth isn't absurd IMO, neither is her map-wide pursuit/dash, it's conditional and she's gated by high CDs/energy costs.

yay nibbers5 votes

It's so dumb that people complain about map-wide pursuit when it's such a situational thing and more importantly already done before. Nobody complained when Warwick gained the ability to do it with his Q from his rework (which, incidentally, was also done by CertainlyT, though anyone complaining about CertainlyT will only ever mention Yasuo or Zoe), and I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about how Zed and Kayn can do it with their ults.

Thefrostyviking9 votes

People are just flipping their tables because it looks like a functional rework for a hated champion.

To me it certainly looks like there is more counterplay possible for both sides and more interaction which are both good, but i guess that even people who realize this are rattled by her W working even under towers.

I personally find that last part to be a bit much too x)

AnAggravatedPimp7 votes

People saw CertainlyT and though "overblown kit." They heard TRUE Stealth and though "broken." So they merged the two concepts and ignored any weaknesses her kit has compared to the former.

Like a conditional dash or stealth that just makes her unclickable but not immune to damage already in transit, AoE and that is in a donut shape so she has a set area of operation as opposed to that big circle from before.

Shiki Ryougi3 votes

{quoted}

People saw CertainlyT and though "overblown kit." They heard TRUE Stealth and though "broken." So they merged the two concepts and ignored any weaknesses her kit has compared to the former.

Like a conditional dash or stealth that just makes her unclickable but not immune to damage already in transit, AoE and that is in a donut shape so she has a set area of operation as opposed to that big circle from before.

You realize that's how all stealth works in regards to the targeting, right? There's no trade-off. It's a straight up buff because you can't reveal it at all now even under turret or with abilities that give 'true'sight.

Pika Fox8 votes

You can reveal her, you just cant target her.

LordGeovanni1 votes

No you cant reval New akali under any circumstances other than her using her own abilites or auto attacking nothing else will reveal her.

Pika Fox1 votes

False; You can reveal her, but you cant target her as a result. It will show you where she is and where shes going, and allow you to target her with AoEs and skillshots, but wont let you use point and click or autos (or towers to hit her)

LordGeovanni1 votes

So im watching all these youtube videos wrong then?

Netorare7 votes

At least she doesn't have a retarded windwall that blocks everything and doesn't have counterplay...

my nama jeff7 votes

people seem to forget that even before the rework akali is a very mobile champion

Teridax687 votes

I don't speak for everyone, but the issue I've been taking so far with new Akali's mobility is that it looks much more difficult to outplay than the old Akali's. Old Akali had a ton of mobility, and so should the new one, but at least the near-totality of old Akali's mobility was unidirectional: she's great at getting into fights, but not so good at escaping them. This was a defining weakness of hers, and when on equal footing (which was admittedly rare), meant that she could be punished if she entered a fight at the wrong time. There are a ton of issues to her kit that make that counterplay a lot less clear (she's super stat-checky, for example), but that is nonetheless a clear, unique weakness among assassins.

By contrast, new Akali has three dashes that are completely free-targeted. What this means is that, if a fight doesn't go her way, she can just use her mobility to escape, which in turn means that she will now get complete control over when fights start and end. This would be okay if she had to be more opportunistic about when to engage or not, but this doesn't seem to be the case, particularly since most hypermobile champions we've seen so far are also excellent duelists. As such, the fear here isn't that new Akali is mobile, but that she's mobile in a way that will give her far too much agency over combat, to the detriment of champions who lack such agency, i.e. immobile champions.

La Bello7 votes

for me its silly that people complain about Mobility creep on a ASSASSIN of all champs.

MOBILITY ON A ASSASSIN IS LITERALLY THE ENTIRE REASON YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PICK THEM.

a control mage can actually put out the same kind of high damage as an assassin but what sets them apart is that assassins have SUPERIOR mobility and target selection.

Anivia Veigar Syndra Lux Orianna CassiopeiaAnnie generally have insane enough damage at later stages of the game that they can kill in one rotation. Even Garen can go full Lethality and insta-gib a squishy target.

What makes the entire class of assassins viable is that they have unmatched mobility or some sort of stealth that helps them pick off ViP. Its literally part of their class fantasy.

If you removed stealth or mobility from assassins there would literally be no reason to pick them over control mages or hyper scaling bruisers like Camille Jax Fiora

Zetahertz6 votes

the new rework is wrong, Akali was a played champ anyway. Idk why they reworked her

Alex h872166 votes

because current akali is point and click stat check cancer.

RainXBlade3 votes

And so is Yi, and people have been begging Riot to nerf or even rework him to something much healthier.

Teêmo Bót2 votes

there's champs like voli and nunu but they rework akali? amazing dev team

Ifneth2 votes

Nunu is next!

SooFr0sty15 votes

It's almost like nunu is next.

That and they had a solid direction for Akali

remakoro4 votes

CONDITIONAL 600 range

Such interesting way to spell GLOBAL...

what's wrong with new akali's mobility?

Perhaps that its now mobility? Her ult limited her in where she can dash. So it made her extremely predictably though very sticky.

ModWulf Helhammer19 votes

Such interesting way to spell GLOBAL

Yes, because there are so many instances where that will actually happen.

If you wanted to get nitty-gritty, Warwick also technically had a global dash, as his Q will follow stuff if you get the hold down, and then his ult can conceivable reach the dragon pit from blue base.

Do those happen? Basically never.

remakoro3 votes

Her dash wont stop after 600 range and it will follow you for as long as it takes. Global dash on WW are pretty much a bug and quite hard to replicate. While what Akali has is pretty much Lee Sins Q. But with no limit to follow distance and with no limit to reactivation range. Do you see some difference?

Pika Fox6 votes

Akalis is basically the same as snowball in aram, just with a much shorter throw range. How often do you get a cross the map snowball after only landing it about half its max range? Exactly.

remakoro4 votes

Its like saying - how often do you hit Ezreals ult all the way across the map. From bot t1 to top t1. Rarely? Well then its not global.

Pika Fox8 votes

Her shuriken range is NOT global. Dash range AFTER you land it is.

remakoro2 votes

Good job repeating what i already said.

D357R0Y3R10 votes

what you said literally made no fucking sense ezreal's ult is global because it's point and click area on ground akali's dash is only global IF SHE HITS YOU WITHIN 600 RANGE that's literally as different as lions and ants

remakoro4 votes

akali's dash is only global

Oh! SO IT IS GLOBAL.

D357R0Y3R11 votes

yes sir, she's going to teleport across the map like tf with a point and click spell and rip off your team's head

you have the art of being funny gj

The Space Cowboy2 votes

Right!? She’s going to globally dash to the enemy fountain. It reminds me of scarner going along for the ride with scion. Or poppy ultimate on scarner lol.

Elkington VI3 votes

Probably because she no longer requires a target to get away from you now, which is especially annoying if you're playing a champ that's immobile or can't keep her locked down.

GrReaper969 votes

Yeah but now you can also dodge her ult

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