I think Karma's got great potential to be a jungler, but like most unconventional junglers, she struggles early. And by struggles I mean she fails to solo Blue after the initial Gromp start. Bad early jungle options for AP champs aside, Karma's early jungle is very easily balanced out and it has very little to no effect on lane Karma. Simply allow her passive to be used on large jungle monsters.
Thoughts?
NguyenerNguyener1 votesNot sure how strong Karma jungle would be becasue in the current meta right now, games are ending at 25 minutes and such; BUT in normals it could be a fun pick to play.
The Bearded Bard1 votesGames last as long as the players do. Just had a game last around 40 minutes, we were getting stomped most of it, around 25 minutes in we turned it around, started catching them out, and slowly turned the game in our favor, eventually winning. Coincidentally I was playing jungle Karma for it.
ltmetal1 votesI haven't tried it on the current patch, but AD Karma jungle was pretty viable last season. I built pretty glass cannon and had mixed results, but it looked like this (substituting Trailblazer in of course):
Either way, you have my bump. In my dream balance state, any champ can jungle and brings a different set of strengths/weaknesses to the table that give you reasons to pick or ban them.
The Bearded Bard1 votesI don't wanna play ad karma, I wanna play ap karma lol everyone can add jungle
Karbuncle1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Bearded Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3r1uKsra,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-11-23T19:32:21.116+0000)
I don't wanna play ad karma, I wanna play ap karma lol everyone can add jungle
I just tried a set up that lets her survive the jungle at least, please try it and tell me your thoughts
0/18/12 taking Windspeakers Blessing and Runic Armor for 18% bigger shields
Hybrid Pen Marks,Health Seals,Armor Quints,and any Glyphs
Start Machete and E
With this set up your bigger shields,that scale with your armor quints,and even moreso with the lifesteal from Machete lead to a lot of survivability
I just tested,and without a Leash I was able to clear Gromp,Blue,Wolfs without dying which is impressive when comparing to my other attempts at Karma Jungle and should do even better WITH a leash.
Karbuncle1 votesone of the issues that arose about Karma jungle was that people are using R+W in the jungle Jungle Karma was barely viable before her they made her tether worked on monsters and the only way she could clear was if she used her R+Q Now that people are using her main clear to heal it hinders it ALOT
I'm not sure Riot would even bother to make Karma a Viable jungler but if they did there's PLENTY they could do to fix it.
Making her Passive work on monsters is a clear way to make it viable since it's so overpowered of a change.
Bring back her R+W Damage even if only for monsters would also be a great change
Give her magic damage on Hit like every other utility mage in the game
Have her Q have it's 5 second cooldown at level 1 instead of level 9 (Seriously why is this not a thing)