For the love of god please nerf Jax

Sayonara Shabi··77 votes·18,288 views

it doesnt matter how shitty you are at the game just play jax press e and q right click nd you auto win the game

hes so brainless and he shouldnt be doing so much fkn damage while being extremely tanky since its impossible to build against him doing magic physical and true damage with conqueror. remove the dmg reduction on his e, nerf his ridiculous attack speed, do something

94 Comments

CIayman16 votes

Nobody cared about Jax until Conq

Delete Conq

Don't nerf Jax

Jax doesn't deserve it

JackMcSnipeyz3 votes

I mean, it's players who PLAY jax and bruisers who ASKED for this mastery in the first place.

CIayman5 votes

We asked for Fervor back, not a burst rune in disguise

JackMcSnipeyz3 votes

People asked for tank busting rune, to shove tanks out of lane. Not saying people asked fot conq specificly, just pointing out people like hashinshin with a lot of influance would not stop asking for these type of masteries. I agree with your opinion by the way.

Ranmaru8 votes

i played a couple of games as jax.

Late game/mid game you fall of HARD

You cant get to the ad or nothin

Also did you guys know jax was known as garbage and not a single change made him better like garen, What if, I got a crazy idea. Jax COUNTERS the meta champs He beats garen and garen is god tier in low elo.

And he can beat graves I fucking love that these boards dont like fixing the actual problems like lack of resistances they just want to nerf champs.

Not even a new build SMH...

AggressiveWolf48 votes

You do know Jax is traditionally known as the hyper late game carry right?

Ranmaru3 votes

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You do know Jax is traditionally known as the hyper late game carry right?

You do know that the game is overloaded with slows and stuns? If I try to go into a fight as jax fed late game I can only kill one person before something like mf just kills me.

AggressiveWolf27 votes

Guess every single overpowered champion is fine now. Because the game is 'overloaded with slows and stuns'

Ranmaru5 votes

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Guess every single overpowered champion is fine now. Because the game is 'overloaded with slows and stuns'

Nope, Mainly adcs dont have that problem since the are ranged. Tanks don't have to worry due to tenacity and there high amount of tank stats.

I guess anytime anyone counters the meta we should nerf them because its not like a champion beats all the meta champs and becomes the best.

But what do I know right? Nothing should counter the meta! Jax countering almost all meta tops and people asking for nerfs because of his high winrate.

Well no shit sherlock when he was the only playable counter to the champions hes gonna be picked.

RebeccaUCuber4 votes

You are THAT kind of Guy Who expects adc are able To kite Xin, Garen, Fiora and so on?

Ranmaru3 votes

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You are THAT kind of Guy Who expects adc are able To kite Xin, Garen, Fiora and so on?

I mean it should not really be that hard as jhin and tristana and most adcs can just jump/dashorjump Stormrazor has a lot of movement speed it gives.

RebeccaUCuber2 votes

Stormrazor cant be activated multiple times in the same fight...once Boost is gone They catch u anyway (like jax). So pls...dont tell me an adc can prevent a xin/jax To jump on them basing everything on Stormrazor...also, to get the Boost u need To hit them first. Meanwhile they can already jump on u :)

about your mentions... jhin needs some items to become The Fast, but he's The only one Who can due this with runes plus passive plus Stormrazor synergy. if he has Not anything to hit he cant boost speed anyway. Tristana has an escape and like the others with dashes, doesn't Mean they are literally kiting you but they are Force to create distance with their SPELLS in order to survive.

Adc cant kite anyone with a really good mobility or engage...

Ranmaru1 votes

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Stormrazor cant be activated multiple times in the same fight...once Boost is gone They catch u anyway (like jax). So pls...dont tell me an adc can prevent a xin/jax To jump on them basing everything on Stormrazor...also, to get the Boost u need To hit them first. Meanwhile they can already jump on u :)

about your mentions... jhin needs some items to become The Fast, but he's The only one Who can due this with runes plus passive plus Stormrazor synergy. if he has Not anything to hit he cant boost speed anyway. Tristana has an escape and like the others with dashes, doesn't Mean they are literally kiting you but they are Force to create distance with their SPELLS in order to survive.

Adc cant kite anyone with a really good mobility or engage...

i DO IT ALL THE TIME HAS JHIN I JUST SPAM STORMRAZOR

RebeccaUCuber1 votes

So all adc = Jhin? x)

Ranmaru1 votes

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So all adc = Jhin? x)

no but every adc has some form of hard cc or a jump or leap and sometimes they have one of these and a movespeed steroid not taking into account stormrazor and the movespeed of crit items.

My Waifu Vanilla1 votes

Stormrazor gives movement speed on every crit not just the one stormrazor gives you for free. They are two separate passives.

RebeccaUCuber1 votes

ehm no? It gaves passive only if u dont auto for a While

AggressiveWolf2 votes

Tbh Garen is kiteable.

RebeccaUCuber1 votes

it's easier than a jax for sure but his move speed can catch An adc especcialy if immobile or behind itemization.

AggressiveWolf2 votes

Many Adc's can kite him though. Examples: Tristana Kaisa Vayne Jhin (because of his mach 40 move speed these days) Xayah Sivir MissFortune Quinn

Some Adc's (like vayne/kaisa/Jhin etc) can quite him more than others but generally speaking he is kiteable. Unlinke, you know, fucking Jax yasuo fiora urgot khazix graves aatrox camille ekko fizz akali. I speed typed that, those are just one that come to mind where you die no matter what if your an ADC that not over fed.

Poske7 votes

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You do know Jax is traditionally known as the hyper late game carry right?

LATEGAME HYPERCARRY which struggles teamfighting yeah. He is more of scalling splitpusher

There are bunch of free elo autopilot champions. Complaining about jax is funny tho. He is like 6th best bruiser in game or some shit

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

I mean what is popular right now? Urgot, garen, Irelia, Darius. Jax shits on all of them so yeah.

Poske2 votes

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I mean what is popular right now? Urgot, garen, Irelia, Darius. Jax shits on all of them so yeah.

Garen ll never be Master- Chall tier popular there are 0 fking garens above master in relevant servers Darius is in similar state garen is. Juggernauts in general are garbage picks

Juggernaut niche doesnt exist in a game where Ranged bullies like Kennen / Lissandra destroy teamfights while tanking harder due to kits Swain and vladimir are also ranged juggernauts

Urgot is a good champion. Does he counter jax? Idk and idc calling jax good in this meta is funny tho Irelia is viable in 3 fknig roles nice jax counter for my adc irelia (thats where I play her the most) WP mate

DarukongSr8 votes

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You do know Jax is traditionally known as the hyper late game carry right?

Except that he's strong early and mid game now as well, and that is unnacceptable.

CrazyDudeXP1 votes

dont get stunned buddy

XElite1091 votes

im with you

CIayman10 votes

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i played a couple of games as jax.

Late game/mid game you fall of HARD

No

No, no, no.

Jax has the best scaling in the game. He has multiple incredibly potent power spikes. The most notable ones are 6, any Tri component, Tri, and Titanic.

Because of Conq, those spikes are amplified to ridiculous levels. Because of Conq, it's hard to abuse Jax early. Because of Conq, he can easily 1v3 with only a decent KDA and some farm. This is coming from someone who mained Jax last season, definitely not a bandwagon hater.

You cant get to the ad or nothin

Also did you guys know jax was known as garbage

Jax has never been known as garbage. Jax has always been known as a highly reliable pick, even if he's not OP.

and not a single change made him better like garen,

See above. Conq made him insane. Nothing about his kit was buffed, true

What if, I got a crazy idea. Jax COUNTERS the meta champs He beats garen

Yeah

and garen is god tier in low elo.

He's also A or B tier in high elo

And he can beat graves I fucking love that these boards dont like fixing the actual problems like lack of resistances they just want to nerf champs.

This is true

Not even a new build SMH...

Conq

Ranmaru2 votes

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No

No, no, no.

Jax has the best scaling in the game. He has multiple incredibly potent power spikes. The most notable ones are 6, any Tri component, Tri, and Titanic.

Because of Conq, those spikes are amplified to ridiculous levels. Because of Conq, it's hard to abuse Jax early. Because of Conq, he can easily 1v3 with only a decent KDA and some farm. This is coming from someone who mained Jax last season, definitely not a bandwagon hater.

Jax has never been known as garbage. Jax has always been known as a highly reliable pick, even if he's not OP.

See above. Conq made him insane. Nothing about his kit was buffed, true

Yeah

He's also A or B tier in high elo

This is true

Conq

I call fucking bullshit garen is not A or B tier in high elo. When conqueror was released people didnt care about jax.

CIayman6 votes

Do you even look at statistics?

Garen (NA) Master: 54% winrate Diamond: 51.5% winrate Plat: 53% winrate

Garen KR Plat+: 50.5%

Garen KR Plat+: Listed as tier 2 (B tier)

When conqueror was released, everybody knew Jax was going to become a problem. Then Jax players discovered time warp tonic and he became a problem in diamond+

And yeah, most of the boards are only complaining about him because they saw high elo streamers complaining about him. Same with Zoe and Akali.

Ranmaru1 votes

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Do you even look at statistics?

Garen (NA) Master: 54% winrate Diamond: 51.5% winrate Plat: 53% winrate

Garen KR Plat+: 50.5%

Garen KR Plat+: Listed as tier 2 (B tier)

When conqueror was released, everybody knew Jax was going to become a problem. Then Jax players discovered time warp tonic and he became a problem in diamond+

And yeah, most of the boards are only complaining about him because they saw high elo streamers complaining about him. Same with Zoe and Akali.

Where the fuck do you get your stats? There is only one MASTERS garen main and none in challenger.

CIayman3 votes

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Where the fuck do you get your stats?

Really?

Why do you think some of the text is a different color? Do you think I'm some sort of wizard who can change text color for no reason? It's op.gg, genius.

Ranmaru2 votes

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Really?

Why do you think some of the text is a different color? Do you think I'm some sort of wizard who can change text color for no reason? It's op.gg, genius.

Op.gg is known for being unreliable and only pulls stats from korea.

CIayman4 votes
  1. Champion pages use KR stats, true
  2. By-tier stats use stats from the region in the domain name. http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/ shows different stats from http://euw.op.gg/statistics/champion/, for example
  3. Every fucking stats site uses the same fucking API for the same fucking stats. Who the fuck says "op.gg is unreliable"? Literally nobody who doesn't think their opinion trumps statistics says that.
  4. The only difference between winrates on stats sites are the samples taken. Champion.gg could be argued to be one of the most """reliable""" sources for NA winrates because it goes by patch, not by dates. (It is, however, pretty shit for builds)

op.gg KR Plat+ Garen winrate (Current Patch): 50.57%. Pretty solidly B-tier

op.gg NA Plat Garen winrate (Past 30 Days): 53.06%. A-tier op.gg NA Diamond Garen winrate (Past 30 Days): 51.42%. High B-tier.

LeagueOfGraphs NA Plat+ Garen winrate (Past 2 Days): 50.1%. Still perfectly B-tier

Champion.gg NA Plat+ Garen winrate (Current Patch): 52.08% winrate. Looks A-tier to me

LoLalytics NA Plat+ Garen winrate (Current Patch): 52% winrate. Also A-tier

HaIlMonitor1 votes

Just because only one person mains them in high elo, doesn't mean their main is bad.

Ranmaru1 votes

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Just because only one person mains them in high elo, doesn't mean their main is bad.

In high elo? It sure as hell does.

HaIlMonitor3 votes

LOL, sure dude.

This guy plays like all mid and ADC, but somehow when he gets auto filled top still picks garen in challenger https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/na/tv+ariana+Iovato

WOW, maybe garen mains just suck?

Ranmaru1 votes

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LOL, sure dude.

This guy plays like all mid and ADC, but somehow when he gets auto filled top still picks garen in challenger https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/na/tv+ariana+Iovato

WOW, maybe garen mains just suck?

What the fuck? We make the assumptions based off of how strong a champion is by what if insertchampion mains just suck*

Ivern doesn't suck ivern mains just suck.

BugsLivesMatters5 votes

"Jax has the best scaling in the game"

MasterYi You wish to learn the hard way I see

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

It's incredibly easy to abuse jax early like do you guys even play the game Oh wait you aren't even a toplaner.

So why even talk about stuff you do not understand.

Jax was garbage for two seasons. He was good with old steraks. Now he is good because he is good against the meta picks. Urgot, irelia, garen for soloQ especially. Good against darius.

CIayman1 votes

1tricked Jax in the latter half of last season, haven't played top since Fervor was removed

Never got ranked because I got banned, but was 7/0 in placements vs high golds/low plats

but ok

XElite1091 votes

your insane.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

*You're

PerfectPower7 votes

All I'm gonna say is go play Jax and let's see how you do.

If you think it's just as easy as "press E, right click" you are completely screwed.

GayFluffyUnicorn3 votes

99% here commenting can#t even play their mains decently how would they know anything about champs they don't or barely play. Abusing bad jax players is so incredibly easy.

Kendal1446 votes

YES DO IT RIOT PLEASE DO IT

Bob the Toastr6 votes

IMO he needs a few nerfs: Remove the AOE damage reduction on his E, make his E a fixed duration so people can better predict it, reduce the damage on his Q or increase it's cooldown.

Ranmaru2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bob the Toastr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3kl8je6L,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-06T14:44:11.755+0000)

IMO he needs a few nerfs: Remove the AOE damage reduction on his E, make his E a fixed duration so people can better predict it, reduce the damage on his Q or increase it's cooldown.

Oh my god. This will gut him.

Summonah123691 votes

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Oh my god. This will gut him.

Bitch pls my ols Warwick got hit pretty hard so I switched to Nidalee. AP SPEARS FOR THE WIN!11

Tausif20028 votes

And this is why riot ignores the boards for balance holy shit

Kadexe1 votes

Yeah let's rip his balls off for being 1% too strong.

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