@Meddler/Maple Nectar, A great window of opportunity for future [[Wukong]] based on [[Dev Diary]]

Wukong Airlines··18 votes·1,003 views

So I just watched the Dev Diary and gamplay plans for 2018. I was surprised to know Riot is planning to allow teams to build comps without the "ADCs" being a necessity.

THIS is the greatest opportunity to work on MonkeyKing , and make him the lead example of "carry/hypercarry" champions who can substitute the ADC role.

It's obvious a champion design only won't allow him to take place of the ADC, a lot of things need to be changed in the process [runes, shifting champions and meta power, items etc] , but he's always had the theme of a hypercarry [as he's represented in most of RPG games].

Things we can do to to improve Wukong's game experience:-

  1. Allow him to fight multiple enemies [[ Every Wukong fan knows well that he's able to fight multiple targets through utilizing his staff and clones, clones normally in the novel/movies are represented as his shadow, they fight for him, so why not apply such fact? ]]

  2. Better use of his Clones. [[ Pressing W to disappear then the clone explodes brings nothing fascinating about Wukong's original theme. Allowing him to control multiple clones and target and hit enemies at a reduced damage will raise his skill cap and bring more to playstyles to the table ]]

  3. Make better use of his Nimbus. [[ This should be his passive, giving him more mobility to jump on clouds that appear around the map, giving him outplay potential and weaknesses at the same time. it could be changed to something else,but point if his Cloud should be put to use ]]

  4. Stone monkey. He was born out of stone, but doesn't mean this should be included in his kit in a "stone skin" form with the ability to obtain insignificant resistances {{ +8 armor and 8 MR on level 16 for every nearby champion }}.

  • the fact that you gave all Tanks/bruisers the ability to acquire that passive with the same NAME [[stone skin]] through item 3193 but it only requires 3 enemies rather than 5 to get the same amount of resistances Wukong gets from his passive.

There's a lot of things and design potential that could turn Wukong into an interesting and even popular champion. But in order to achieve that, one must be aware of his traits, the original novel and everything related to him.

11 Comments

Yes Daddy PIease3 votes

while i hate wukong with a passion (when playing fiora) i certainly agree with you, however that only way to warrant him filling the adc role would be to make him so weak as to be unviable in other lanes, because if he scales like an adc that would be a recipe for disaster

im not sure about your first point, although it does sound interesting, looks leblanc or shaco to me kinda, although wouldnt it be cool if he could have a ton of clones, but doing no damage and disappearing if hit like that naruto doppelganger spell

ur 2nd point would certainly be fun to play with however this has kind of been covered by azir, it would be pretty strong though depending on how its used

3 messing with the map by placing moving entities on it will probably fuck up some people especially if its inconsistent only appearing when wukong is in the game, what i would say is let him have a cloud he can summon like in the myths and ride it around, it would reduce his combat abilities but give him movement speed and the ability to go over (certain?) walls

4 but you have to remember he gets those stats for free while others have to use up an item slot and buy it

Wukong Airlines1 votes

I didn't mean he should scale like ADC, he should be changed to be a hypercarry, something similar to master yi for example.

All of the above can be fixed based on numbers and CD, it could turn him into a fun champion, with sustain damage, no need for burst in such kit.

and those stats arent for free, they require champions to be nearby, and because dmg is high and penetration is stronger, they feel non-existent. in any 1v1 he would lose and the passive would turn pointless. A shield would be 10x better than low amount of resistance that are acquired through nearby enemies.

If it would turn to be [[ steal % armor + mr based on the enemy's ]], then I think this would put him in a better spot.

Yes Daddy PIease1 votes

hmm while this indeed sounds super fun i feel like it would be ryze all over again like it would be the kind of kit that would require a ton of work to keep balanced

Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votes

while i hate wukong with a passion (when playing fiora)

? u just have to build item 3047 and u have won the lane. I don't understand the issue against Wu.*

4 but you have to remember he gets those stats for free while others have to use up an item slot and buy it

no he dosn't get them for free. Cause of this passive he have sh*tty base state and get rekt by usual top laners and get rekt in his jungle. Btw his passive is useless during laning phase... and same after tbh.

Salson3 votes

Fiora has problems when fighting item 3147 users.

Jayce and Panth are her direct counters, Wu is more of a I-know-you-know-I-know skill matchup.

Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

I worry about him being an "ADC replacement" after remembering what happened with Mordekaiser, but I do think if any champ could pull that off, he could. especially after playing Paragon and seeing how their Wukong can work as a carry just by trading range for Zoning potential. On top of that, if Riot is really trying to make it so champs can be played in more roles including having melee ADCs, then it wouldn't hurt to give him the chance to do so. Also looking at what you said about improving Wukong's kit, it actually sounds pretty similar to my ideas for his kit I've been working on :p

Azuregore1 votes

So you want wukong to be meepo? Cause this is how you get the terror that is meepo...

Reverent Wrath1 votes

I would think more like the phantom lancer or terrorblade with the clones.

Azuregore1 votes

Either way, they would be fighting teemo for the true terror of the rift. Pls, my sanity can barely handle teemo.

GGLineaR1 votes

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So I just watched the Dev Diary and gamplay plans for 2018. I was surprised to know Riot is planning to allow teams to build comps without the "ADCs" being a necessity.

THIS is the greatest opportunity to work on MonkeyKing , and make him the lead example of "carry/hypercarry" champions who can substitute the ADC role.

Don't kid yourself, they're going to try and shove Yasuo into that role again.

I wouldn't mind seeing wukong viable again, though.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes
  1. Better use of his Clones.

[[ Pressing W to disappear then the clone explodes brings nothing fascinating about Wukong's original theme. Allowing him to control multiple clones and target and hit enemies at a reduced damage will raise his skill cap and bring more to playstyles to the table ]]

yeah, i'm gonna say that's a big fat no. i played HoTs for some overwatch skins a while back. they got this, it's not fun.

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