A Few ideas that Might Help out Ivern

BrightWîngs··4 votes·2,875 views

My first idea is for him as a jungler

Things as Ivern jungle if you get invaded you have no other option than hope your team comes and helps, if that doesnt happen then you have to give up your jungle. So an idea would be if Ivern was attacked a camp nearby would agro to that enemy ( and I dont mean like raptors agroing from red buff I still want it to be fair ) this idea helps him at least deal with invades and still greatly fits his play style and character. ( let me know what you guys think on this if it would be too broken or a good change :D )

My second idea for him as a botlane suport

The idea is very minor but would help him a decent amount in the botlane support role. Ive played Ivern support and as you could imagine its not very good simply because of the lack of presence he has in the lane. Enchanter supports like Janna Lulu Nami all have one thing in common, their ability to poke. Ivern has 2 ways of poking with his Q and his W passive his Q is fine the way it is and shouldnt be changed but I think if his auto range on his W passive was just a little bit further he could poke just a little better and have better presence in the lane.

Let me know what you guys think :)

8 Comments

Hammermancer2 votes

to be fair, if you take ivern down bot lane with a maokai and knifecat jungle camping your lane.... you'll win lane.. every time....

Friendly Ram1 votes

Never again. Bushes should not 100 to 0 me.

Hammermancer1 votes

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Never again. Bushes should not 100 to 0 me.

I call it "cant see the jungle for the trees comp"

0 Hogapu2 votes

I like the 'camps attacking the invader' part :)

It might be too strong tho, make it so only marked camp can do it. I think it is a great way to help Ivern out

BrightWîngs1 votes

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I like the 'camps attacking the invader' part :)

It might be too strong tho, make it so only marked camp can do it. I think it is a great way to help Ivern out

Yeah when coming up with that idea I knew on some level it may be a little busted but that's a good idea with the marked camps

Tegash2 votes

Ivern is stuck in a spot where he's neither a super ganker nor a powerfarmer. The ideal method is to mark your camps and then gank, but this leaves you underlevelled and low on health. So unless you can really rely on your laners, it's not a good strat.

Meanwhile the other method is to walk around jungle marking your camps, control scuttles with smite, and then back to take each camp in the order you marked them. Unfortunately this leaves you even lower levelled than the previous strategy, and if the enemy jungler ever knows where you are while doing this, they can invade and kill really easily, closing you out of the game and establishing dominance.

I really like the idea of jungle camps assisting Ivern in attacking enemies who invade. That would be really cool.

An idea I had was, instead of summoning Daisy, what if Ivern could stock up camps he takes and then, in rapid succession, summon those as his ult?

Pandemic Punch1 votes

Changing the AI of his Ultimate would significantly improve his viability as well. Make it work more like Tibbers.

BrightWîngs1 votes

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Changing the AI of his Ultimate would significantly improve his viability as well. Make it work more like Tibbers.

couldnt agree more

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