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Matchmaking NEEDS to be addressed

Śhunpo·12/31/2019, 12:16:19 PM·8 votes·7,307 views

I'm sick of my teammates being in Silver-Gold, meanwhile, my opponents are usually Plat 4 to Challenger (normals).

I'm sick of facing duo Q solo laner+jungler, effectively making my lane a 1v2 and ruining my entire experience; and as a result fun.

I'm sick of having junglers that are ALWAYS worse than my opponent's jungler. Like, I get it, we all have bad games, but some of these players that lock in jungle are outright terrible, and the fact I'm almost always matched with them is a joke; and probably correlates with my first point of ranks being skewed.

I'm sick of everyone in my games being toxic.

And most of all, I'm sick of the fact that Riot refuses to fix any of this.

Now, before this is swept under the rug and removed as it's deemed to be "more suitable for the RANT section", let me provide some insight here. In every single game I play I'm usually the highest ranked player on my team, being Platinum 4. Many of you will that that's an awful rank, I agree, it is awful.

So why then, am I matched with Silvers and Golds, and even unranked players while the enemy team usually ranges from usually Platinum 4 to Challenger?

This needs to be addressed, as it's simply not enjoyable for anyone...unless you're on the enemy team, you've had a bad game and you want to take out your rage on 5 average players. Even then, that's not fun, nor is it at all fair in terms of competitiveness. If you match a top ranking local tennis player against Roger Federer or Rafael Nadal you bet your ass Federer or Nadal will sweep the floor of that poor soul. Same logic applies to League, if you match a Silver-Gold player against a Diamond+ players, chances are...they're gonna get creamed, without mercy.

Any way you look at it, that's not fair or fun.

Point number two Having a jungler duo Q with a solo laner or vice versa ruins the game, especially in "Solo Queue". What was an "uncoordinated" game is now an entirely coordinated game...for two people...who happen to be on the most impactful roles in the game when played together in tandem.

Why this is allowed in any queue type outside of maybe Draft Pick and Flex Pick is beyond me, and to be quite honest with you it's high time that duo queue is removed from the game entirely at some point, or a new queue is made for actual solo queue.

Seriously, it's not enjoyable to play an already difficult to carry game and likely boring matchup, only for your opponent to be in comms with an epic gamer Lee Sin player (and it always seem to be a Lee sin for some reason :P) who spam ganks you and never allows you to play the game. Even under tower YOU ARE NOT SAFE. They will dive you relentlessly, and unless they somehow mess up you're going to die...every. Single. Time.

Even in normal games this is a problem, especially when combined with the first point I'm making, being the fact that ranks are extremely skewed in normal games, and in ranked games you often get players who are debatably not great, while your opponent has players who are actually good at the game.

tl;dr: Fix normal game matchmaking, and ranked matchmaking. Remove duo queue from solo queue, or make an entirely new queue just for true solo queue. Finally, NERF LEE SIN

All jokes aside, matchmaking is hilariously wack.

8 Comments

IP Masquerena12/31/2019, 6:17:50 PM2 votes

The only issue I have with MM in normals is that it places 5 man premades against non 5 man premades.

Ranks don't really matter much to be, I only use them as a guide for "who's gonna be the most toxic" or to know what player is the showoff Diamond, but 5 man teams are a big problem. The enemy team has no co-operation, yet your team is full to the point of unfair.

Duo Q in solo Q was never a problem for me, but that's just me.

McKuntalds12/31/2019, 9:45:47 PM2 votes

They'll never address it . They'll make it worse if anything . This is all intentional to seize as much capital from uninformed people as they can .

Read up about boosting , scripters, rigged MM and the automated banning system that operates on a non context basis and you'll have a picture of the giant shthole this game is .

in a hood near u12/31/2019, 10:35:43 PM1 votes

Read. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias

Then think about what you wrote.

Then let's talk, because right now you're ranting illogically.

ProphetOfDraven12/31/2019, 11:04:45 PM1 votes

Well at least some of this could be explained by OCE being pretty dead.

Saezio1/1/2020, 9:30:11 AM1 votes

  1. Normal matchmaking is not meant to be balanced. It's meant to be meaningless games that don't matter for anything. If you want to be matched with equally skilled players you (supposedly) play ranked

  2. There SHOULD be a true SOLOQ I agree with that, especially in the western servers with the low player counts, mmr differences are already too wide to allow for duos to mess it up even harder in the one "competitive" queue. Gone are the days the queue was divided to solo/duo and 5-man, so if there is already a non-normal queue we can go as 2 or 3 premades(flex), why do we still keep it solo/duo? (my guess is that the only reason being it has been this way for too long now and riot is afraid, rightfully so, that people will whine and backlash cause they can't abuse it)

  3. Having said that, you need to realise it's either making solo/duo into solo and dumping all duos to flex (flex could do with some quality improvement don't get me wrong) or... not much else you can do, you can't have both solo/duo AND solo Q. Cause maths.

Time2 eJACK uL8 1/1/2020, 1:33:14 PM1 votes

Big Agree. My Issue is I always lane against someone ranked 2 tiers higher than me, and have to suffer through getting CAMPED by enemy JG, and watching other lanes struggle to play against lanes ranked lower than they are.

I just want a fair game. If someone better than me wins that is fine. Just stop giving us these dogshit tier games and expecting us to take it.

Leetri1/1/2020, 1:49:32 PM1 votes

Don't look at rank, that has absolutely 0 to do with matchmaking. It's all about that hidden MMR. You could have Gold rank but Diamond MMR by just throwing/dodging your promo games but winning all your other games. It will LOOK like you have a Gold player on your team, but they have the skill of a Diamond player. Not saying that's what happening in your case, just stating that you should never judge matchmaking based on rank since they're entirely unrelated. It's like judging how fast a car can drive based on its colour.

And as others have mentioned, you play on OCE which is one of the smallest servers. There might not be enough players to make even games at the time you're playing, so it has to increase the skill gap so you get to play at all.

ModUlanopo1/1/2020, 4:03:57 PM1 votes

From the upcoming Gameplay update:

++SPECIAL RULES REGARDING MATCHMAKING THREADS++ In general, threads about matchmaking are not suitable for Gameplay, as there is no discussion value. Players have zero agency over the system and Riot’s priorities with regard to normals matchmaking have been debated to death.

That said, Player Support does sometimes tell people to share their matchmaking experiences on the Boards. While we work on other solutions, it will be permissible to post matchmaking experiences on Gameplay. That means, “here is a specific thing that happened”, preferably with a screenshot. It does not mean random complaints about matchmaking will become permissible and we reserve the right to lock any thread that devolves into complaining.