Riot, this is not balanced

datfatguy·Dec 22, 2016·10 votes·815 views

Riot, this is not balanced. I just had a game as Janna. At the start of the game I was useless. We almost lost the game because I was so useless in fights. This all changed when I reached full build. My team could not die. It was not balanced. If I used Redemption, Locket of the Iron Solari, and my ultimate, nobody on my team would die. I helped a 200 hp Draven survive against a Vi. When are you guys going to nerf this? This is actually ridiculous. Nobody on my team could die.

12 Comments

SchmidttyGamesDec 22, 20162 votes

Janna seems to be exactly where they want her as an early game shield/peel support and a late game team fighting menace. She has her weaknesses, primarily herself, where you will get dumpstered by pretty much any fighter that gets to you. This is why teams actively work to assassinate Janna from the onset of a teamfight. To prevent her from doing what she does so well.

I consider her largely balanced. Perhaps with Redemption's inception, her ultimate could use a wee nerf. But otherwise, she has enough weaknesses that can be punished to negate her power.

datfatguyDec 22, 20163 votes

But if you saw what I was doing in those teamfights, you would probably ban Janna whenever you got the chance.

SchmidttyGamesDec 22, 20163 votes

I've fully healed a 3000HP Tanker with Redemption and her Ultimate. I know exactly what she can do. But when her ultimate is on cooldown, all she has left to defend herself is the often wildly ineffective Tornado to protect herself. Her shield works well on others, but not so well on herself.

If you force her to burn her ult, you have a long window to make her life hell. When her W is on Cooldown, she loses speed and can't ghost through minions. While her E does provide a massive shield lategame, it doesn't matter on her because she is about as squishy as they get, even with Coin and all of the health from her items.

When she is protected by a team, she can be a nightmare. But no more unbalanced than Zyra, Karma, or even Soraka, who I would argue is a far worse plague on the Rift than Janna with Redemption in her pocket.

DracocrashDec 22, 20161 votes

no, janna is by far the worst support to play against.

She is literally the definition of brain dead freelo.

and it really doesnt take more than 5-10 games to master her.

bad arcade kittyDec 22, 20162 votes

you mean a support being useful late game isn't balanced?

like go to ward some stuff and do nothing

venomous frostDec 22, 20162 votes

this thread isn't about janna, or supports he means redemption and locket are ridiculous right now, and they are. it gives your whole team like 1000 extra hp, on top of janna's good peeling already

Snake TownDec 22, 20162 votes

They said they were doing a balance hotfix soon

StarboyˇDec 22, 20162 votes

Redemption heal could definitely be reduced by like 5 per lvl but i think the delay makes it not broken. Also locket could decay faster

bad arcade kittyDec 22, 20161 votes

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Redemption heal could definitely be reduced by like 5 per lvl but i think the delay makes it not broken. Also locket could decay faster

and they are support items and the reason why supports are relevant

what if i made a thread how morello, void staff and rabandon allowed my lux to blow up people and how it is ridiculous and probably unbalanced, will not it be silly? or about maw, black cleaver, botrk? hydra, deadman, visage? how is it not silly to dislike shields/heals on support items then? especially when classic supports compete with mid mages in that position nowadays, since a higher gold income allows support brands, annies etc to buy a lot of ap

you simply want the classic supports to be irrelevant because they prevent you from getting kills or you simply never tried to think what it means to have relevant healing/shielding supports in the game. it means a lot of your kills are denied and teamfights lost to their heal/shield because they are relevant

StarboyˇDec 27, 20161 votes

actually i main thresh and the size of the shields and heals is ridicolous, the new items are incredibly powerfuly for how little they cost. Also what i said would literally reduce the redemption shield by 90 at level 18. I guess it must be hard to read when your head is up your ass