Wit's End will finally build from Negatron Cloak

Valhalla Rising··67 votes·4,782 views

http://i.imgur.com/FwPjyT6.jpg And its 300g cheaper, praise Rito!

Edit: Hope this doesn't get deleted for wrong section just because I added a picture. Edit x2: Thanks for not deleting it Rito :D

P.s. I buildsitem 3091 on Leona :D

83 Comments

Irelia Bot39 votes

The return of Wit's end.

While I would not call it perfect it is actually something I might justify getting sometimes again.

Still needs 42

Revali24 votes

Heimerdinger There's just something about that number.

Gnart Even Close7 votes

it's the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything

Remlap12234 votes

That downvote... did you really spoil Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy for someone lol.

bill846 votes

I feel like everyone has heard this even if they have not read it.

Gnart Even Close1 votes

somehow I apparently did lol. that's not even that important in the grand scheme of the books. i mean, we still have zaphod beeblebrox and the pangalactic gargleblasters to enjoy amirite?

JVP152 votes

It may be the ultimate answer, but what is the question?

Gnart Even Close1 votes

what is six times nine?

JVP151 votes

54, Why?

Gnart Even Close1 votes

ssshhhhh

Schoenberg1 votes

We have a winner!

bill841 votes

Cant wait Soraka item 3091

Melledoneus8 votes

No matter where I look, I can't find this item you're talking about. I'm at my wit's end here.

LaserDeathBlade5 votes

Honestly that item needs some move-speed on it

AS without sticking power is absolutely worthless, and since I'm guessing wits end is a melee-centric item, it's even more of a detriment.

Blue Moon Wolf3 votes

Wit's end is one of my favorite cost effective items to build. Hell it's practically mandatory for my AP MonkeyKing build to work :p (item 3091 item 3115 item 3100 item 3026 item 3001 item 3047).

billxx12 votes

Off I go to ranked

Blue Moon Wolf2 votes

It's not the most practical build for Wukong, but it is a lot of fun and no one would ever see it coming.

billxx4 votes

I'm sure it will work great as support in my promos

Voluug132 votes

Still better that Zed ''I will carry dont worry he is my main'' support.

billxx2 votes

How about kat support

Voluug133 votes

You got me.

billxx2 votes

Yay

Isaac McDougal1 votes

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It's not the most practical build for Wukong, but it is a lot of fun and no one would ever see it coming.

It's not worth seeing coming nor is it practical ever. You don't do bonus damage on your main damage spells and can only whack them.

Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

That's the point of it. It makes AAing and using abilities just to proc item 3100 are the main focus rather than his Q and Ult. I'm not saying AP Wukong is something that should be brought into ranked, nor am I saying that it can be more useful in certain situations than building AD. All I'm saying is that it's fun and makes for a unique way to use a pretty much stale kit that likely won't be seeing anything new for another 3 years.

CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes

Ekko Evelynn Elise Warwick Fizz IreliaJax

Nielarken10 votes

item 3091 on Fizz makes no sense they will be dead before you get 2 stacks

Hyrum Graff2 votes

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item 3091 on Fizz makes no sense they will be dead before you get 2 stacks

AP tank fizz. Replaces AD tank fizz's bork.

dr lichdeath3 votes

not if you play bruiser fizz

LadyRenly2 votes

Until it gets its magic damage on hit back I refuse to use it.

Valhalla Rising19 votes

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Until it gets its magic damage on hit back I refuse to use it.

It's had magic damage on-hit for the 2.5 years i've been playing. donno wutchu talkin bout mang

LankPants14 votes

It's about 2 short though

Yfrappefort7 votes

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It's about 2 short though

Veigar IS THAT A SHORT JOKE!?!

LadyRenly5 votes

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It's had magic damage on-hit for the 2.5 years i've been playing. donno wutchu talkin bout mang

It used to have 42!!! Having 40 is just not the same

LankPants2 votes

How do you justify it over Maw even at that though? Maw's just so stupidly strong right now that they could probably drop Wit's another 300 and it wouldn't see play.

billxx1 votes

Wits is more niche and is a good item as a full ad team for mixed damage and the attack spd and passives are great on junglers like shyvana and yi

LankPants1 votes

Even on Shyv and Yi it's still going to be worse then Maw. Maw is just an incredibly strong item and the only champ I think will pass it up for Wit's is WW.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Even on Shyv and Yi it's still going to be worse then Maw. Maw is just an incredibly strong item and the only champ I think will pass it up for Wit's is WW.

Wit End's attack speed has more synergy with other possible on-hit effects that your champion buy or naturally has. Unless those on-hit effects scale with AD.

LankPants1 votes

The synergy just doesn't matter, Maw is just a stronger item.

It's a bit like comparing Ohmwreker to Frozenheart, even if you're a splitpushing champion who would really like to shut off towers Frozenheart is still a better item.

Item synergy doesn't matter if an item's just bad.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

I think you are massively undervaluing wits. Maw is actually pretty shit-tier on Shyv, as she BARELY scales with AD, and scales MASSIVELY well with attack speed. The Wits passive benefits her W and E greatly. The only thing it lacks is sticking power, which shyv doesn't much struggle with.

LankPants1 votes

I would never buy Wits over Maw on Shyv, you buy Maw for the sheild mostly, the AD is just added benefit.

Also Shyv does scale with AD at least more than you're giving her credit. AA-Twinbite reset is a 3.0 AD ratio when Twinbite is maxed, that is a fair sum of AD based burst. When you consider that even Hex is probably better than Wits in the generic case I'd always go Maw>Wits on Shyv. I do build Cinder though so maybe that skews it a little.

Atanchan3 votes

I feel like this is just an admission of absolutely not knowing why you buy Wit's End at all.

Why do you buy it? For the DPS, almost certainly. Not only is the attack speed and on-hit actually pretty good, but the MR shred makes it and, more importantly, potentially all your damage except your base attack damage better. Devourer, Sunfire, and Wit's End was an absolutely devastating on-hit jungler build, and Sunfire / Cinderhulk + Wit's End is still pretty solid for a tanky on-hit build.

The protection against magic damage is certainly an important part of the item - there'd really be not much of a way to justify it on anyone who likes it if not for the extra bulk - but it's not why you buy it. It's an on-hit damage item first, an anti-magic item second.

facemelter7101 votes

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I feel like this is just an admission of absolutely not knowing why you buy Wit's End at all.

Why do you buy it? For the DPS, almost certainly. Not only is the attack speed and on-hit actually pretty good, but the MR shred makes it and, more importantly, potentially all your damage except your base attack damage better. Devourer, Sunfire, and Wit's End was an absolutely devastating on-hit jungler build, and Sunfire / Cinderhulk + Wit's End is still pretty solid for a tanky on-hit build.

The protection against magic damage is certainly an important part of the item - there'd really be not much of a way to justify it on anyone who likes it if not for the extra bulk - but it's not why you buy it. It's an on-hit damage item first, an anti-magic item second.

Word also. Not like this is my get to diamond strategy or anything but if you combo wits, black clever and hurricane on a long range ad carry let your tanks go in first per usually and shred defense and dps whilst making your tanks and mages deal more dps as the fight persists. That gives you room for a set of boots and 2 more items if the game goes late. Hell this might help hidden tank teemo return lol. Gonna be sweet.

Dr Poro2 votes

http://euw.op.gg/champion/shyvana/statistics/jungle

MaW isn't even built on Shyvana, while Wit's End is a niche item (the one with the highest winrate: 62%, actually). Wit's end is already built more on her than MaW is, I think after the buff, Wit's will definitely be a better pick. 300g is a huge buff. Wukong's winrate went from 51% to 54% just because Black cleaver got buffed (-300g and -5 AD) and sunfirecape got nerfed (+200g) (In total, this is about 350g stats difference compared to most meta toplaners).

Thumpin2 votes

C'mon dude, source. Where the hell are you seeing this?

Serika Zero1 votes

Hmm, i wonder how well it will be on Diana. Should do very well with Nashors and Lich Bane, mmm. Split pushing taken to a new level :D

mikemcparty1 votes

You build nashors and lich? I usually just choose situationally. Usually I go for lich in mid and nashors when I'm top or jg.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

give us movement speed on it plz rito.

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