Let your jungler kill scuttle

Visigoth·May 13, 2015·37 votes·1,748 views

Unless they are across the map and you really need vision, there's no reason for you to steal it from them. You get 50 gold, he gets 80. You are removing 30 gold from the team. Additionally, they get HP to endure the hardships of the jungle. Not everyone gets a cushy little tower and minions to fight for them. Lastly, devourer stacks. Sure, 1 stack doesn't seem like much, but it adds up. Firstly, every time you take it, they lose that stack. So lets say 10 time in a game. That's 10 damage every auto attack. Assuming they have around 1.5 attack speed, that is a lot DPS they end up missing out late game.

15 Comments

KrigjerMay 13, 201512 votes

I don't really care who gets the scuttle because it gives vision. I want SOMEONE to get it.

What I would like to see stop is when one person (such as myself, playing the support) is soloing it and someone swoops in for the last hit. I just did 2k damage to it by myself, let me have the gold!

BeerOfRoot4843May 13, 20157 votes

Alternate title: Stop being a dick

MetalGearTeemuMay 14, 20153 votes

I'll kill your crab. then I'll blow up that huge wave bottom with canons, then I'll go Parrrley red.

I'm a pirate. All that exists does so to give me gold.

the Anarchit3chtMay 13, 20152 votes

Wait, so you smite the scuttle?

idokiMay 13, 20152 votes

If you have Trailblazer Scuttlebro can be a life saver sometimes.

the Anarchit3chtMay 13, 20151 votes

Yeah :p there's obviously certain situations where smiting it would be applicable but generally since it offers no advantage from being smited other than a bit of gold, I don't do it.

Daedalus871May 13, 20152 votes

You get 50 gold, he gets 80. You are removing 30 gold from the team.

By this logic, all the jungle camps should never be taken by anyone other than the jungler. And let's face it, there is only so much gold on a Nunu will do.

Additionally, they get HP to endure the hardships of the jungle.

Does it give HP? If so, it's barely noticable.

Lastly, devourer stacks. Sure, 1 stack doesn't seem like much, but it adds up. Firstly, every time you take it, they lose that stack. So lets say 10 time in a game. That's 10 damage every auto attack. Assuming they have around 1.5 attack speed, that is a lot DPS they end up missing out late game.

In 10 seconds of pure AAing, that is 15 AA, which means 150 damage. 150 damage in 10 seconds is not "a lot".

Variks the LoyalMay 13, 20151 votes

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You get 50 gold, he gets 80. You are removing 30 gold from the team.

By this logic, all the jungle camps should never be taken by anyone other than the jungler.

Yes.

Except blue, and red late game. You have minions to get gold from, and unless you're a smite top laner, and I'm a carry jungler, then that gromp is mine.

the Anarchit3chtMay 13, 20151 votes

As for giving hp it's more than the HP Rune it has(if it even has one idrk) since it does no damage you can get free sustain from it. When I JG as Xin Zhao, Udyr etc. I like to go up to the scuttle after clearing a side of the jungle and gain back some life before moving onto the next side. It's super effective with Xin early game due to his self healing with 3 autos

MeªtMay 13, 20151 votes

{quoted}

You get 50 gold, he gets 80. You are removing 30 gold from the team.

By this logic, all the jungle camps should never be taken by anyone other than the jungler. And let's face it, there is only so much gold on a Nunu will do.

Additionally, they get HP to endure the hardships of the jungle.

Does it give HP? If so, it's barely noticable.

Lastly, devourer stacks. Sure, 1 stack doesn't seem like much, but it adds up. Firstly, every time you take it, they lose that stack. So lets say 10 time in a game. That's 10 damage every auto attack. Assuming they have around 1.5 attack speed, that is a lot DPS they end up missing out late game.

In 10 seconds of pure AAing, that is 15 AA, which means 150 damage. 150 damage in 10 seconds is not "a lot".

Generally in the early game, all the jungle camps... should really never be taken by a laner, because that puts the junglers behind. If my ADC takes my gromp at level 8-9, he is denying my an immense chunk of exp that I now have to wait for. I will happily let a smite/TP top laner take my wolves or chickens at the beginning of the game, no problem. But unless he is extremely behind, or we are beyond laning phase, I really dislike people taking anything else because it becomes an issue for me. Especially when I get flamed for taxing.

150 damage in 10 seconds may not be incredible, but with OP's scenario that simply the damage that's being lost from a teamfight. 150 damage over 10 seconds... is not too bad. In the late game it's a good percentage of someones health (>10% of a squishy, <10% of a tank) that shouldn't really ever be neglected.

RivvyMay 13, 20151 votes

Can we stop grabbing at lose ends already? God.

Hello I am BirdMay 13, 20151 votes

As soon as someone listens...

Spacesuit SpiffMay 13, 20151 votes

Yes. Hell, stop taking the big jungle monsters. The small ones are fine, but when Ezreal randomly snipes my big chicken that's 30 less gold on the team.