@Meddler, not expecting answers after 3 years but

Ahristocats·Mar 19, 2017·10 votes·1,302 views

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HunUmCgC5Cc/maxresdefault.jpg

http://lol.fureur.org/sites/default/files/media_crop/25252/public/LoL/LoL_news/sr.jpg

why did you SECRETLY nerf sona's ult width during her rework? this is disgusting as it wasn't mentioned

https://youtu.be/K_7XhG2op_0?t=2945 Cresendo used to be THE MOST POWERFULL teamfight cc as it could hit an entire team, every casters in sona games were paying attention to cresendo

https://youtu.be/K_7XhG2op_0?t=3267

you just removed the entire point of picking Sona in master and above and in lcs instead of Janna Lulu Karma or **** enchenters AND other mages like malzahar And thanks to you she became a low elo pick not viable in lcs, not viable to do anyhing in high elo

if the nerf was not mentioned during the rework, then i don't know if i should expect an answer

12 Comments

Illâoi Evê SiônMar 19, 20175 votes

They said the animation was wider than the actual hitbox so they reduced it to match. Edit: Source.

AhristocatsMar 19, 20172 votes

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Illâoi Evê SiônMar 19, 20173 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Sona x Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3IFO2c6J,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-03-19T17:14:07.713+0000)

are you blind or?

Just providing info.

AhristocatsMar 19, 20176 votes

you provided an information that does not explain what happened Sona's ult like in this GMG vs azubu could hit people even on the edge of the ult, nothing was wrong with the hitbox vs animation

riot just found an escuse and nerfed it

and why i'm blaming you is you're trying to manipulate people by telling them that sona's ult was always like that when i showed perfectly above with a game that it was not the case

InTheoryMar 19, 20174 votes

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AhristocatsMar 19, 20175 votes

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Man can't you even make one single post without attacking players, league of legends or riot?

Yes i can but it doesn't mean i want to, if riot fucked up with Sona i have to attack them you want me to tell them they did a great job? Lol

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You're soo increadible salty, negative and toxic

shame

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you really need to get some help irl.

Nah

ACENOXMar 19, 20178 votes

to match it because they nerfed the width

sona's ult used to be as large as what you can see above

Illâoi Evê SiônMar 19, 20172 votes

Read the source. They specifically say in bold that the area of effect was unchanged. Maybe it was changed, maybe there was some kind of mistake or misunderstanding, maybe the area of effect was wonky before the changes because of spaghetti code, but I don't think they would deliberately lie.

AWildAPKalistaMar 19, 20175 votes

They would in fact deliberately lie. It's a well-known fact that Rito are habitual liars, especially concerning Sona. Fearless spent 2 whole months lying that he hadn't shadow nerfed her Q range. Then when he shadow nerfed it a 2nd time, he was confronted with such outrage that he finally admitted he'd been lying to our faces the whole time.

I could list so many times that Rito has BLATANTLY lied to us customers, that I'm lost as to even where to start.

How about Fearless' final Sona post? Where he assured us she wasn't forgotten and promised he wouldn't abandon her. Like I said, this was his very last post before he abandoned her and she was forgotten for over 2 years.

How about the countless times where Jag and Meddler denied various facts and evidence of Sona being gutted into the weakest character in all of League? I was so personally infuriated by the verbal harassment from Jag that I physically couldn't finish reading what he wrote. It was that severely insulting and intentionally spiteful towards Sona players that I literally couldn't see straight.

Illâoi Evê SiônMar 19, 20171 votes

Could you please give sources for all this? It's not that I don't believe you, but I want references (I love references) and if it's true then that's a shitty thing to do and I'll be really disappointed in Riot.

AWildAPKalistaMar 19, 20175 votes

Here is Fearless promising not to abandon Sona, immediately before he abandoned her to ruin the jungle for preseason 5:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/2n8M8JVj-riot-fearless-what-was-sona-made-for?comment=0003000300000002

Fearless lying about not shadow nerfing her Q:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/NA0kHMhA-my-opinion-on-sona-and-a-few-questions-to-fearless-civil-discussion?comment=0000

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/VjfZBwEV-fearless-after-giving-the-sona-rework-some-time-to-sink-in?comment=000c00050000

...and then him admitting he had and continuing to lie about it being intentional:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/JEfmrO1L-so-is-no-rioter-going-to-come-forward-about-the-decrease-in-sonas-q-range-to-650-from-700?comment=00050001

Meddler lying to customers, while referencing another instance of himself lying to customers:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/i4mbjszh-meddler-state-of-sona?comment=0003

Here's the news post by Jag that made my vision go red, to this day I still haven't read the whole thing:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/data-and-champion-balance-part-2

Lastly, here's Jag lying to customers:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/3NL0vjdZ-the-pbe-has-been-down-for-2-and-a-half-weeks-first-update-is-a-nerf-to-sona

Searching for all this, I'd forgotten that Repertoir had chimed in and disrespected Sona players at one point too. Even KateyKhaos has displayed verbal abuse towards us. Many, many Ritoers don't want Sona to be a viable pick again.

AWildAPKalistaMar 19, 20174 votes

Then they secretly changed the numbers on her champ page from 1k to 900. It wasn't in the patch notes, they never told the players on either PBE or Live.

The whole point of changing the visual and repeating lying to players that its range wasn't changed just inherently shows Rito's hatred for Sona. It's not even the only shadow nerf they made to her. They also shadow nerf her base AD, her Q range TWICE and who knows what else?