@Riot Meddler, Are you satisfied with the state of Shen in the modern game?

ExecutorDill··2 votes·269 views

I'll keep it short and nice.

Shen has extremely low Q range compared to other single target abilities like Malphite's Q. I understand shen runs off of energy but then again so does Akali, and IMHO, I consider energy a bigger drawback than mana that just gets worst the longer the game goes on. I've never had trouble fighting against resourceless poke like Kennen Zed Vladimir Katarina Akali and others (once I pick the right champ that is). So I don't think +50 units on his Q would make him Op. His current Q range is the same as Yasuo's range... In no way should a throwing Projectile's range be that of or shorter than a jab range... That's just dumb.

Also his movement speed, now usually this wouldn't bug me but for shen! A ninja who does next to Zeeeero damage. The least they can do is make him a little more agile, I mean c'mon JarvanIV is a primary role Tank who's kit is similar to shen's. He has passive on hit damage, poke with Q, shield with W, and gap close CC with E (once it's paired with Q) the only difference is iphe actually deals damage and has a damage ult, even if he runs off of mana, that shouldn't be such a big factor in balancing them I mean c'mon.. Zed was a come pelt troll before his nerf and still trolling, in the early lanning phase where you get like 2 - 3 autos off and spam abilities, an attacks speed nerf is not going to make a difference #Trust Me!

So I would just like Riot to put this into testing :3

Q range increased to either 500 or 525 from 475

Base movement speed increased to 340 or 345 from 335

I believe these small changes will help with several issues shen faces without putting him on top:

It will slightly make him a safer laner (which a Tank should be) It will increase his farm potential under pressure and under turret. It will help him to better intimidate many melee champs (who he should be strong against) who come equip with gap closers that exceed his current range Renekton XinZhao Irelia Jax Riven Pantheon It will help him achieve those last hit kill that barely walk out your range that you are too slow to get :'( It will slightly help with his overall juggling as Top and Jungle being the 2 likely choices for a shen player and sometimes Support but they are away more capable sups and we know that.

TL;DR Shen's short range and low movement speed makes him underpowered and doesn't help with his lack of power and waveclear

P.S. Came out longer than I expected^^ LoL xD

9 Comments

doublelift fg2 votes

lfmao 200 sec cd ulti

he needs something on his W and his ulti

ExecutorDill1 votes

Honestly I think just the slight number changes would suffice but thanks for agreeing ;)

Phife2 votes

lower the CD on his Ult and COMPLETELY REMAKE his Q.

Troy2426211 votes

Yeah that'd be nice.

ExecutorDill1 votes

I like the idea of making his ult a 2way rift portal that allows 1 passage per side and can be used by everyone... Kinda like Bards E but collapses on enemy entrance. With like 2 seconds channel time and a 7 seconds duration. And like 120/100/80 CD.

As for his Q.... Maybe change it to a Kunai instead of sword and have it smart cast like Urgot's Q

Troy2426212 votes

I want to love Shen jungle because I can just farm steadily and can run interference on-demand. Problem is, it's terrible. Half my energy bar for using my E once? ZERO damage? VERY low CC?

His E is a relic of old design. Everyone and their grandma can avoid it now, and 1.5 seconds isn't even that long of a duration anymore. Much less now that the range is so tiny.

ExecutorDill1 votes

You are only watching at the usage and not the regain. He gets 40 energy back per taunted champion. So even if you only manage to hit 1 champ (though hitting 2 isn't that hard if you react fast enough or they burn flash) you will get 40 back and E will in turn cost only 60 energy. Plus the instant Ki Strike after taunting that restore 10 energy at lvls 1 through 6, 20 energy at lvls 7 through 10 and 30 energy at lvls 11 and up (Pro Tip: More Ki Strikes= more energy return thus build attack speed) and don't forget the +10 energy every second that all energy champs get.

Troy2426211 votes

There's no way you can spin it to make it look good. Of all energy champions, by far, he is the most gated.

ExecutorDill1 votes

Well I'm not saying he doesn't need a buff. All I'm saying is that his problem is not energy constraints as he can easily do everything he wants if you just not go ham on abilities and manage them better.

Shen is kinda sleeper OP, though I find his Q and ms inconsistent and not thematic. The closest thing to true damage in this game is magic damage because mr per lvl and mr from items is low whereas AP items are high as Noodles! And you can get his you down to a 2 second cooldown at rank 5 with max CDR. You can get 11 magic pen from marks and Quints and an extra 30 from item 3151 + item 3020 not to mention 20 reduce mr from item 3001. Most summoner don't have more than 60 mr at 30 mins into the game... Some don't even have more than 50 and with all the burst you can build him.... He still will be naturally tackier than burst mages and have a beefy W shield.

#For Top Shen Just Build Health+AP for Damage Excellence xD

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7SR99_XIAY

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