The Brutalizer and early game armor pen.

JavelinJoe··1 votes·405 views

item 3134 It is a great, early game, armor pen item. The only problem is that it is very limited since it can only be built into item 3142 for non-smite using players. Could there be a new item has item 3134 in its build path and focuses more on DPS and less on utility or some boots that give armor pen (like item 3020 for magic pen).

An example of an item would be (note that all traits and amounts are just propositions, not all have to be included as well, they are just ideas):

  • Something that builds from item 3134 and either item 1038 item 1043 item 3144 item 3086 item 1037 item 1011. It would give a combination of some or all of these: 45-80 Attack Damage 10-20 armor pen 10-15% CDR 10-15% Life Steal 10-30% Attack Speed
    5% Movement Speed 10-20% Critical Strike Chance 250-400 Health It could cost maybe anywhere from 3100-3500. I don't know what passive it could have if any.

Yes I realize that item 3142 fits some of my proposed stats. I am simply suggesting an alternative to it that still allows for the early game strength from item 3134 .

3 Comments

ValyrianBlade1 votes

Brutalizer is one of those items where it's permitted to have unnaturally high power at one point because it has unnaturally low power at another.

Rod of Ages is the opposite.

Brutalizer is perhaps the strongest early game item because it builds in to nothing really strong and thus really falls off late game.

Rod of Ages is a very weak item early relative to its price, but becomes one of the strongest items for the price in the game.

If for example, we brought out: Brutalizer + Bilgewater cutlass: 55 AD 15 armor pen 15% lifesteal 10% CDR Bilgewater's active

Then you're going to see some ADCs either rushing this item or getting it third. You're going to see a LOT more AD Casters rushing this item. Zed and Pantheon would have a hay-day.

JavelinJoe1 votes

I wont argue that it is strong early, but i tend to never build it because of the waste of 1337 gold (even though it might help generate some from kills). Also with the amount of armor items increasing and being really strong in general, along with only 3-4 armor pen items for non smite using players:

  • item 3071 item 3142 item 3035 item 3134
  • item 3707 item 3714 item 3719 item 3723 (if using summoner 11 )

most ADC/ AD casters could use some more armor pen options in my opinion.

For ex: lets say you have smite and go full armor pen. you would have 65% +50 (without runes and masteries) , +155 AD (+45 AD and possible form of true damage from the smite item) and you most likely have boots for the 6th item. This means that you have:

  • No single item source of high attack damage like from an item 3031 (I am aware it is rare in the current meta for junglers to have this item in their build)
  • No source of life steal like from a item 3153 or item 3072
  • No Armor/MR items (save boots)

But no one will build this way because you become so squishy for fights (assuming melee champ because most if not all current ad scaling jg champs are melee *not including Kindred) that you cant fight for long because you die too easy if the enemy focuses you.

Ralanr1 votes

Pantheon could use a hay-day.

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