Placing mid as your secondary role does not guarantee you your primary role and when you don't get your primary role, whining about how you cannot mid at all only makes the champ select process a very frustrating and uncomfortable experience for all involved.
Kinetika19 votesIt pretty much guarantees your primary, more so than any other secondary role.
I understand your point, but it won't change anything. If for some reason Support became the role with the longest wait times, players would be using it as their secondary to give themselves the best shot at getting their primary.
With mid as secondary, the added benefit is that a lot of people are willing to trade roles for mid
Zerenza1 votesYeah i mean i place it as my secondary for that reason but i also do actually play mid since thats one of my two main roles so if you ever get put mid and want to trade by all means i'm fkin open guys xD
Rorana1 votesI just dodge if i get mid, only way i am getting adc is if i go adc/mid cause I only play adc or support =(
Warlord Zudane1 votesI put bot/supp because there's a chance you will match up with someone doing supp as first pick.
Warlord Zudane1 votesUnless you have a team with 2 supports, an adc, a top and a jungler and nobody on the team is familiar with mid.
Kinetika2 votesI suppose anything can happen chief. But statistics would support a very small probability of no one in the queue being willing to trade for mid. Also, that's kind of a rabbit trail...what really matters is that most people queue up with mid as their secondary role, and as such, they further increase the demand for mid, making your primary role choice far more likely to occur.
LateCustomer6 votesI suppose as a Mid primary, I don't understand risking a secondary role you can't handle. I select Bot as my secondary because, if I don't get Mid, I want to at least be in a position where I won't be an immediate detriment to my team (you reeeeally don't want me in the Jungle).
If you're going to select Mid as your secondary JUST so you "have a better shot of getting your main", then learn a few safe mid champs and play conservatively.
Dreadlocks1 votesand i suck everywhere except jungle at my elo, so putting mid helps me get jungle, if I get mid, then oh well, ima suck just as much as if I got any other position, but at least I increased my chances of getting jungle when doing so. :)
EndlessSorcerer1 votesJust learn a safe mid-laner and do what you can to help your team.
Personally, I would recommend Lux. Her utility, waveclear and burst damage are exceptional and she is pretty much always a safe pick.
Drugoth1 votesOrianna is better than Lux in terms of safe picks because you can scout with your ball. And CSing with her passive is real easy.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesI find that Orianna is a bit more difficult to get right and requires more practice.
Lux seems more forgiving for someone who only occasionally plays the role.
Besides, both of your arguments can be used for Lux too. Her E provides vision and can be used for scouting in the mid- and late-game (with greater range) and her passive makes last-hitting targets pretty easy.
Drugoth1 votesI dunno I find Lux harder personally. Although you bring up valid points I prefer Orianna for her team fighting.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesAh. I've always preferred sieging and used to main Ziggs, so Lux suits my playstyle more.
Orianna is someone I've always wanted to pick up, but I find I have trouble adjusting to the range of her Q. I can get away with playing her rather supporty (shielding the initiator, protecting allies), but I'm not quite good enough at laning with her.
Drugoth1 votesZiggs is real cool too. Once you get used to Orianna's ranges she becomes a total lane bully. Melee champions have an especially hard time laning against her early because you can guarantee a hit with your Q because they have to go melee range to last hit. Also, her W is a lot more flexible than people think, it can be used both offensively and defensively. Also it's pretty awesome that her E also hurts people the ball travels through so you can Q just past them, W, then immediately E for some real easy poke.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesYeah, I haven't played her in a while and I'm just recently picking up mid-lane again.
I just have to practice her more.
TerranHybrid1 votes"I'll drop...my balls on you..." - Orianna
She can be a right terror in the right hands. Both in Mid and as a Support.
It Hertz When IP2 votes
The original ball-dropper.
TerranHybrid1 votesSo true, but I can swear that Orianna "sings" that line sometimes when she's talking in game.
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
Sammystorm1 voteswait what. Orianna was around first.
It Hertz When IP1 votesI must have forgotten the "/s".... Thought that was implied.
LateCustomer1 votes[{quoted}](name=Red Rengo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=39vAZVm0,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-09-19T17:41:22.104+0000)
and i suck everywhere except jungle at my elo, so putting mid helps me get jungle, if I get mid, then oh well, ima suck just as much as if I got any other position, but at least I increased my chances of getting jungle when doing so. :)
Looks like you favor early gank-happy assassin types in the jungle. Mid assassins that roam and top all in brawlers might suit you just fine as a secondary.
Dreadlocks1 votesYeah but in my personal experience, you have to know what you are doing to pull those champions off. Not saying I can't do it in lower ranks, but because my experience in the jungle far outweighs that of mid/top, i don't think i can play my off role champs at the same level as someone who mains mid/top.
LateCustomer1 votes[{quoted}](name=Red Rengo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=39vAZVm0,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2016-09-19T23:22:25.859+0000)
Yeah but in my personal experience, you have to know what you are doing to pull those champions off. Not saying I can't do it in lower ranks, but because my experience in the jungle far outweighs that of mid/top, i don't think i can play my off role champs at the same level as someone who mains mid/top.
Yes, and no one realistically (ragers don't count) expects you to, that's why it's your off role. When I play ranked, I say I'm a decent Mid (for my tier) and an adequate Bot (meaning I won't feed, but I won't dominate either). Sometimes, that's all you need. Make it easy for your team to carry you when you're on your off role.
Dreadlocks1 votesYeah i wish it worked out that way lol.
Tychusfindlay9192 votesI suppose as a Mid primary, I don't understand risking a secondary role you can't handle. I select Bot as my secondary because, if I don't get Mid, I want to at least be in a position where I won't be an immediate detriment to my team (you reeeeally don't want me in the Jungle).
If you're going to select Mid as your secondary JUST so you "have a better shot of getting your main", then learn a few safe mid champs and play conservatively.
Time to learn the cancer of mid lane that turns every matchup into a farmfest... Morgana....
LateCustomer2 votesTime to learn the cancer of mid lane that turns every matchup into a farmfest... Morgana....
Absolutely nothing wrong with farming up.
NineTailedMystic1 votesIt's extremely boring when the lane is just "Waveclear: The Lane". Champions get nerfed for being uninteractive ya know.
It Hertz When IP1 votesNo one's saying it's an exciting matchup, but Morgana offers a decent strategy; she discourages the enemy mid from roaming by threat of dumping an entire minion wave on his tower every minute or so. Conversely, if you dodge her Q, she has no way outside her ult of sticking damage to you, making her vulnerable to being harassed.
CrimsonReaps1 votesscrew morgana im still trying to find a mid laner i can beat her with consistently.
Mazariamonti1 votes 
Just a few
CrimsonReaps1 votesThanks!
NineTailedMystic1 votesMorg is hell for Ahri. Shove shove shove so Ahri can't roam well, can't all in because of Black Shield, Snare means death or stopping an all-in even harder.
It Hertz When IP1 votesDoesn't Talon shit all over her, too?
Mazariamonti1 votesWell if he gets fed then I guess, but you can basically just ult when he goes in on you and the tether will reveal his location whether he's invisible or not. It's a less than ideal matchup for him.
It Hertz When IP1 votesIt does negate his stealth, but he can still juke her Q like normal. So long as he waits to go in until her ult is down, he's good.
Alternately (spitballing, I've never seen a Talon-Morg matchup and don't play Talon) he could go in without abilities, wait for her ult, flash out, ult himself, then go all in. It'd only work when Flash was up, though.
Mazariamonti1 votesThere's definitely room for talon to make some plays to get an advantage, but in general it's up to the Morgana to make a mistake either by using q within range of his gap closer or by taking too much unnecessary damage from talon when trying to farm. Talon 'can' win (it's happened to me one or two times) but in general it should be easy for the Morgana to push the talon in to prevent him from roaming while also having all the tools available to counter talon if/when he decides to get aggressive.
Sammystorm1 votesAs a mid main I consistently put top as my secondary because it gets me a better chance of getting mid. If I put jungle, which I am better at, I get jungle most of the time. It is depressing to me because I have to wait forever for mid lane.
TequilaZombie4 votesTo be honest, it sorta is.
Also, finding someone to trade their roles for mid is much easier than finding someone willing to change to any other roles.
Meep Man4 votesOn the other hand, do you realize how frustrating it is to try and consistently get to play Middle? It's damn near impossible.
Amelie1 votesTrue that... aren't mid lane mains getting screwed over by everyone putting mid as secondary?
Draven Wun Trick4 votesi do support/mid and i never get mid. mid as secondary gets your primary role. CONFIRMED
Drugoth4 votesWait, isn't mid the most contested role? Wouldn't you be more likely to get any other role than mid when you choose mid secondary?
LateCustomer2 votesWait, isn't mid the most contested role? Wouldn't you be more likely to get any other role than mid when you choose mid secondary?
Yes. This is why players choose it as their Secondary, theorising that because it's so contested, they will more than likely get their primary so the game doesn't spend too long looking for slots to fill.
Radnar the bold3 votesSo here's my issue, I only choose mid as my secondary, mostly because I don't want to be auto filled into ADC or Jungler. I could do support, but I know I will get support every time if I do so. The issue is that people that solo lane or even solo q, would rather have a position like mid or top. Also some people that play top are also good at playing mid or vice versa.
Aeszarck2 votesIt's a bronze ticket to get your role.
Lirik2 votesi always put mid as my secondary and ever since i never got mid sooo yeah its a nice golden ticket to get top or jungle thanks rito
oh !! and yeah don't forget something very important if i ever have to get mid.. i will simply ask for a trade off i bet the 4 other players would like to have it.
It Hertz When IP1 votesUsually works, sometimes doesn't. Easier to just pick up a few of the dumb-easy midlaners (Morg, Lux, Heim, Urgot) and be ready to take mid if necessary.
38501575_DEL2 votesSo long as it's not mid, it is.
ThePartyLeader1 votesI wonder how the system would work if people actually queued as they should instead of trying to game the system.
DarkRitual2 votesA lot better, but people got tired of playing support every game when they picked "fill"
