Why did riot removed purple smite?

DropFill··5 votes·5,058 views

I feel extemely behind when jungling as Sejuani, because sincerely her clear time is bad and most of the times she stays low on health. Why was it removed? edit1: Why are people downvoting whem I am make a question?

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lightdragoon882 votes

I think it was because people where taking it to lane a lot more than jungle.

What jungle item do you start with Sejuani? item 1041 or item 1039?

DropFill1 votes

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I think it was because people where taking it to lane a lot more than jungle.

What jungle item do you start with Sejuani? item 1041 or item 1039?

Not hunter's machete. I forgot the name of the other one though

BTpeto Tantrum2 votes

What runes and masteries do you run? Also what ability order do you follow? I haven't played a ton of Sej, but I seem to be able to clear decently while maintaining health, might just be my setup though lol

DropFill1 votes

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What runes and masteries do you run? Also what ability order do you follow? I haven't played a ton of Sej, but I seem to be able to clear decently while maintaining health, might just be my setup though lol

I go 6/6/18 . I change runes all the time to se which one is better. I go for W/E/W(if not going to gank at lvl 3)/Q and them lvl up W to the max and E to the max after

BTpeto Tantrum1 votes

Personally I run a 0-12-18 page with strength of ages as keystone, but grasp of the undying is also fantastic. Try running scaling health seals with attack speed quints and CDR glyphs. You can seriously take whatever marks you want, AD works well with clearing since you do all autos, AP scales fine too. Also starting krugs, then taking crows, and then wolves (If you have enough health) or scuttle on first clear is my usual jg path, it helps you get the starting blade quickly. Hope I made sense, and hope it helps you :) we need more good Sej players.

DropFill1 votes

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Personally I run a 0-12-18 page with strength of ages as keystone, but grasp of the undying is also fantastic. Try running scaling health seals with attack speed quints and CDR glyphs. You can seriously take whatever marks you want, AD works well with clearing since you do all autos, AP scales fine too. Also starting krugs, then taking crows, and then wolves (If you have enough health) or scuttle on first clear is my usual jg path, it helps you get the starting blade quickly. Hope I made sense, and hope it helps you :) we need more good Sej players.

You run no armor runes? I am thinking about putting some cdr on quints instead of MS or AP

BTpeto Tantrum1 votes

I've always been a scaling health guy. I just don't see the point in having 9 extra armor when you can have a free 216 HP at 18. (I've had so many times where I'll get a kill while ignited, level up, and that extra little scale of HP saves me) CDR runes are absolutely amazing, especially on a tank champ.

DropFill1 votes

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I've always been a scaling health guy. I just don't see the point in having 9 extra armor when you can have a free 216 HP at 18. (I've had so many times where I'll get a kill while ignited, level up, and that extra little scale of HP saves me) CDR runes are absolutely amazing, especially on a tank champ.

9 extra armor is to help surviving with the early jungle clear. Bonus health doesn't actually help in nothing early on

BTpeto Tantrum1 votes

It's 9, it doesn't really help that much, I used to use armor seals, then switched over, it really does help, also kiting the creeps around a bit, even if you're melee you can still do it, also finding which monsters to kill first, for example the smaller krug before the big one, things like that.

Restless Slumber2 votes

It was too strong. In a good game of Nidalee I could get 150 cs at 20 mins.

Anraton2 votes

well .. i do jungle seju myself .. don't have much trouble wit health while cleaning ...

if you wanna look at my runes .. i am useing the "J" page (page 1)

for masteries i am running 12/6/12 Ferocity Furry, Expose Weakness, Vampirism, Oppressor

Cunning Wanderer, Secret Stash

Resolve Unyielding, Explorer,Veteran's Scars, Perseverance

starting with item 1039 , 3x item 2010

Jungle route: Golems (smite), raptors, Red(smite) wolves, blue (Smite) gromp, scuttler

heading for item 1401 ... in total i buy like 5 or 6 health potions

Maybe you wanna try and give me some feedback?

Moesnd1 votes

You probably wanna go 18 in resolve for strength of ages

Anraton1 votes

well you can do that ... i want to have both vampirism and secret stash ... so i am not able to go 18 points into resolve .... its a personal decision ... but if you can clip the points from any of the other 2 .. feel free to do - just suggesting how i like to play.

LaughingMan112 votes

Honestly, if you need it with Sejuani, you're probably not using the right runes, she should be able to survive really well because of how naturally tanky she is with decent runes/ item path.

DropFill1 votes

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Honestly, if you need it with Sejuani, you're probably not using the right runes, she should be able to survive really well because of how naturally tanky she is with decent runes/ item path.

You guys need to understand what naturally tank is. Only think she has is 10 more armor early on because of her passive. Malphite W , rammus W, mundo passive and stuff like that make people naturally tank. Her passive doesn't make her that much

Quepha1 votes

Because farming junglers would just take it to make their clear speeds even better and do nothing but farm the jungle all game long. It's almost like they weren't playing a multiplayer game.

If you're behind on a jungler like Sejuani then you want to catch up by trying to make plays and ganking.

DropFill1 votes

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Because farming junglers would just take it to make their clear speeds even better and do nothing but farm the jungle all game long. It's almost like they weren't playing a multiplayer game.

If you're behind on a jungler like Sejuani then you want to catch up by trying to make plays and ganking.

It is hard to gank when most of the times I am low

McAnnex1 votes

Ranger's Trailblazer was removed along with Poacher's Knife as of the 5.22 update. Details were not shared other that many items being removed at the time were 'restrictive, incomplete, or otherwise not very well supported.' There may be more info out there somewhere about the item, but I am unaware of it.

Old Man Teeto1 votes

It was partly to nip the ability to smite-sustain between fights to increase map uptime. In general this is a strong, but boring, aspect of jungling of being omnipresent.

Having combat smites, or strategic warding options is far better overall for fun gameplay.

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

Junglers like MasterYiWarwick Shyvana were just way too strong. It was designed to help junglers with weaker clears but the quick farming junglers just abused it to clear even faster.

PapaGreg211 votes

It was taken out because champions were abusing it to get devourer faster so the ones who really needed it like Sejuani and Rammus are now screwed. I feel like this is the story of every item

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