Only Statik Shiv, benefits Yasuo with all the new items

Guy Fox Teemo·Nov 6, 2015·4 votes·859 views

So please stop saying all these "Crit Buffs" are gonna put Yasuo over the top, the only part thats actually benefiting him (In terms of items) is the Statik change (as he doesn't build any other crit item, besides IE)

Infinity Edges damage is also being nerfed by 15, not enough to compensate for the increase of 20% crit (allowing for 100% with IE and Statik, will only change how his runes work since a lot of yasuo's take the extra 10% for 100% or take Trinity)

The only thing I see putting Yasuo over the top in Season 6 would be the new Mastery that allows him to heal and extra 15% of crits every 2 seconds (plus 20% attack speed which is insane).

Probably suggest nerfing his base attack speed and or growth due. And maybe hit his base AD, so he doesn't have an overly oppressive early game with the extra Regen in lane.

Just my my Two cents on the matter.

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Pluie BattanteNov 6, 20152 votes

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RalanrNov 6, 20154 votes

But... Pantheon sustain...

AMYS GRAVENov 6, 20151 votes

oh god i hadn't even thought of that.

RalanrNov 6, 20151 votes

I'm excited for it.

But it may be ruined by Yasuo. Champions like Yasuo and Zed are usually the reason why Pantheon can't have nice things.

Guy Fox TeemoNov 6, 20151 votes

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Or maybe they could tinker the mastery itself, because ADCs that critically strike will also have the same issue your saying about Yasuo?

The whole point of the Passive is to give the ADCS the extra life steal, except yasuo has double critical strike. Soo yeah

Pluie BattanteNov 6, 20151 votes

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Guy Fox TeemoNov 6, 20151 votes

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With all the new items coming out; especially that percent health damage plus sooo much armor pen. do you really think they need that much. And as I recollect tanks got nerfed in terms of items so yeaa.

I don't know who told you "Sooo much armor pen" when it got nerfed.... Last whisper ignores 30% now (bonus armor) and its main item only does 40% bonus armor , you would need a LOT (like 700 armor) for it to be a buff.

Espy PsycheNov 6, 20152 votes

Make it ranged attacks only? That would maintain it for the ADCs but remove it for Yasuo.

DedraakNov 6, 20152 votes

How is the mastery less of a problem for ADC's? Sure, they have less crit, but it's on a 2s cd so with an ADC's attack speed, they will still be able to proc it just as much as Yas.

SincarnationNov 6, 20152 votes

This guy doesnt realize how strong 12% damage reduction on a split pushing duelist is. Yasuo can go shiv for burst or go PD and more defensively to shit on most opponents in a 1 v 1. PD + IE = 100% crit too. Warlord's Lust and Death's Dance are actually also really fucking good on him.

AMYS GRAVENov 6, 20151 votes

Its really just the mastery that's gonna make him too strong me thinks.

SasogwaNov 6, 20151 votes

RapidFireCannon seems like a better version of Statikk Shiv for Yasuo (2 items needed for 100% crit, huge burst). Also the mastery giving 15% lifesteal on crits and 20% as is absolutely insane on Yasuo.

qetzelNov 6, 20151 votes

If we are being fair he got 15% attack speed from the now removed frenzy. While it is true to say that Yasuo benefits from a keystone mastery (like almost every champion) he also loses out on other parts (again, like every champion). It may be true that this gives him more power than he should have, but that is the joy of preseason. Everything changes, nobody quite knows exactly what is going to happen. I am in no doubt that Riot has Yasuo on their radar and that they won't leave him - or any other significant outliers - alone for more than a patch.

It is the preseason. Expect a patch or two of massive imbalance and have fun trying out all the changes before the real stuff starts.

Guy Fox TeemoNov 6, 20151 votes

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RapidFireCannon seems like a better version of Statikk Shiv for Yasuo (2 items needed for 100% crit, huge burst). Also the mastery giving 15% lifesteal on crits and 20% as is absolutely insane on Yasuo.

You get 100% from statik and IE aswell, doubt rapid fire would be as good since it lowers his wave clear and shoving power