Plz add an ap guardian angel

Th3 Rift Hero··4 votes·1,693 views

Like,it's such a useful item, in fact, when i play Diana if i see the game is at risk of throwing of being lost, i always build it and it usually save me the game. But plz riot, you made it so it only got ratio for ad champs its not fair, resureccting is pretty cool

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ned the kled6 votes

item 3157

xZabaksx2 votes

Not as good

boricCentaur13 votes

item 3157 umm its better then item 3026 in almost every way and now heres why it has better stats, it has a better active since it can save you from dying and you will be in the fight sooner then GA it also has a shorter cooldown mean it will be up more and champions like swain,kennen, heim all can do damage in it

HommeGoujon3 votes

They should just reverse the item. It used to be only defensive stats.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

As others said, you already have a protective item that's exclusive to AP users: Zhonya's Hourglass. Asking for more is just plain greedy.

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

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As others said, you already have a protective item that's exclusive to AP users: Zhonya's Hourglass. Asking for more is just plain greedy.

i still find more success with ga on diana tbh

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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i still find more success with ga on diana tbh

If the build works out, then good for you. However, don't ask for an item for your own specific champion when it could've been heavily abused by other AP users.

LeftyRaydy1 votes

yes Cause AP items were abused this season thats why mages were running item 3147 item 3095

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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yes Cause AP items were abused this season thats why mages were running item 3147 item 3095

Apparently you never experienced the Runeglaive Smite Mid meta.

LeftyRaydy1 votes

I actually took a break for 18 months and started playing again in June, but Stormrazor is still abuse by Non markman champs.

The Bearded Bard3 votes

AD has so many more defensive items

LeftyRaydy2 votes

item 3156 item 3139 item 3026 item 3053 item 3812 sure lets talk about this "exclusivity"

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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item 3156 item 3139 item 3026 item 3053 item 3812 sure lets talk about this "exclusivity"

item 3156 An AD item that also grants MR? item 3102 Checked.

item 3812 An AD item that grants bonus sustain from hitting abilities? item 3146 Checked.

item 3053 An AD item that grants bonus damage & HP? item 3027 Checked.

Gonna exclude GA since Zhonyas covers it, and Mercurial's only good for its QSS build, so that's an exception.

LeftyRaydy1 votes

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item 3156 An AD item that also grants MR? item 3102 Checked.

LMAO just no This is not even close nice try though. Banshees passive fails in comparison to Maws passive especially in a fight. Also you are comparing an AD item that grants MR versus and AP item that grants AP.

item 3812 An AD item that grants bonus sustain from hitting abilities? item 3146 Checked.

Another good attempt, but last time i checked this also offered AD and only works on like 3 champions really Kata, Akali, and Jax. While Deaths Dances offers High AD, CD Reduction, and 2 amazing passives.

item 3053 An AD item that grants bonus damage & HP? item 3027 Checked.

You really believe any of the items you compared are close..... Steraks is an amazing item and again ROA doesn't really work on too many champions. Steraks give your HP plus Base damage increase while providing a great passive that helps eat any burst damage. ROD of ages is just health mana and AP with a passive that doesnt even come close since it has to build up in time.

Gonna exclude GA since Zhonyas covers it, and Mercurial's only good for its QSS build, so that's an exception.

I would take GA over Zhonya's anyday.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

LMAO just no This is not even close nice try though. Banshees passive fails in comparison to Maws passive especially in a fight. Also you are comparing an AD item that grants MR versus and AP item that grants AP.

When negating a single ability apparently is worse than blocking 150 damage. K.

Another good attempt, but last time i checked this also offered AD and only works on like 3 champions really Kata, Akali, and Jax. While Deaths Dances offers High AD, CD Reduction, and 2 amazing passives.

So you're gonna build Death Dance on a Ryze, Morgana or something? What's your point here?

Steraks is an amazing item and again ROA doesn't really work on too many champions.

Nuff said. Thank you.

LeftyRaydy1 votes

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When negating a single ability apparently is worse than blocking 150 damage. K.

now I know 100% you are a troll Even the Hexdrinker gives 110-280 AP Shield. LOL . Look below for the full Passive of Maw of Malmortius

FROM THE WIKI UNIQUE – LIFELINE: If you would take magic damage that would reduce maximum health below 30%, you first gain a shield that absorbs 350 magic damage for 5 seconds (90 second cooldown). Triggering LIFELINE grants LIFEGRIP. UNIQUE – LIFEGRIP: Grants +20 attack damage, +10% spell vamp and +10% life steal until out-of-combat.

You

So you're gonna build Death Dance on a Ryze, Morgana or something? What's your point here?

Nuff said. Thank you.

I am done chatting with you. You obviously do not know the game at all or were playing different league of legends good luck.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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now I know 100% you are a troll Even the Hexdrinker gives 110-280 AP Shield. LOL . Look below for the full Passive of Maw of Malmortius

FROM THE WIKI UNIQUE – LIFELINE: If you would take magic damage that would reduce maximum health below 30%, you first gain a shield that absorbs 350 magic damage for 5 seconds (90 second cooldown). Triggering LIFELINE grants LIFEGRIP. UNIQUE – LIFEGRIP: Grants +20 attack damage, +10% spell vamp and +10% life steal until out-of-combat.

You

I am done chatting with you. You obviously do not know the game at all or were playing different league of legends good luck.

Whatever that makes you happy man. Ill follow your example by building Maw on a Fiddlestick next time.

LeftyRaydy1 votes

I don't understand what you are even talking about. You tried to compare AD items to AP items that are not even comparable.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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I don't understand what you are even talking about. You tried to compare AD items to AP items that are not even comparable.

So should everyone deserved to build Death's Dance's healing passive? Should all 10 players in the map deserves to build 10 GA despite different various team comp? Each side already has their own exclusive items with various passives that benefits certain types of champions, giving everyone the exact same items where the only difference being AD/AP is just plain bland.

LeftyRaydy1 votes

No not everyone should build the same, but there should be options to build. right now AP items are to freaking generic. For Example name 1 dedicated AP Assassin Item, now go ahead and name AD assassin Items Duskblade, Youmuus's, and edge of night come to mind even if the last one isnt great. and then AD assassins have choices Maw, GA, Deaths Dance, and so on for some defensive items. Right now the only decent defensive items for AP mages and assassins is Zhonya's and Banshees (which is built far less). AD items have better choices AP items suck with Variety. AD assasins can easily get 40% cd from 3 strong items BC, Dusk, and youmu's all work great together which you cant even compare a single item on the AP side like black cleaver is on the AD side. You seriously have no clue at all.

boricCentaur11 votes

Its almost like don't understand how ap champions works so ill help you. Ap champions rely on there kits more then ad champions and have less ways to apply damage like items for a cait would suck for a wukong since they apply damage and have different needs wukong needs ad and health and cait needs attack speed and crit whereas a swain build would be ok on a ahri the items would just be less effective and but not unless since they both use abilities and the health is useful on both and thats the problem ap champions are too similar so having as many items as ad would be point less like if there was a ap black cleaver it would need to have like 70 ap the health can stay the same and most ap champions would use it but if the ap was like 40 or 50 it would suck. The problem is not the items its the champions like when you have a class of champions and they all do most of there damage from abilities there's going to be a lot of overlap.

LeftyRaydy1 votes

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Its almost like don't understand how ap champions works so ill help you. Ap champions rely on there kits more then ad champions and have less ways to apply damage like items for a cait would suck for a wukong since they apply damage and have different needs wukong needs ad and health and cait needs attack speed and crit whereas a swain build would be ok on a ahri the items would just be less effective and but not unless since they both use abilities and the health is useful on both and thats the problem ap champions are too similar so having as many items as ad would be point less like if there was a ap black cleaver it would need to have like 70 ap the health can stay the same and most ap champions would use it but if the ap was like 40 or 50 it would suck. The problem is not the items its the champions like when you have a class of champions and they all do most of there damage from abilities there's going to be a lot of overlap.

Please Mr Silver 5 tell me how the game works, because I have no idea. First you are just wrong plenty of AD champs rely on their kits especially AD assassins. Wukong, Zed, Talon just for example heavily rely on their kits just as much as AP champs so we will consider them AD casters. Second there are different types of AP user not just mages like you seem to assume. They want an AP fighter (Diana) but the only kind of AP fighter Item the have is ROA and maybe Rylais which fine whatever but they need an AP % shred like Black Cleaver. AP assassins are sharing the same items as Mages which is dumb because you don't have AD casters/fighters and Markman (usually excluding MF and Lucian building Black cleaver) building the same thing. They need different Items they need different passives. There are so many different types of AP users yet they are all stuck with the shitty AP items that are basically just stat boosts BIG EXAMPLE Rabadons which I would take an item that has a better passive like the Black Cleaver passive, but for an AP user.

boricCentaur11 votes

I used black cleaver as a example to why you can't have items like that for ap. Your also missing the point markman are auto based so why can't use the same items on them then you go to ap there all ability damage every fucking ap champion is based off that. You said that there are different types of ap champions but you did not say how like yeah there all different types of ap but that only means how the champion is played a ap assasin will most likely have the sames needs as a burst mage. But I will say ap items are really boring compared to ad and you are right they are just stat boost we can agree on that and I think that riot should of address this problem a long time ago.

LeftyRaydy1 votes

Black Cleaver shreds based on AD damage including AD skills Like wukong ultimate so please tell me why there cannot be a version of Black Cleaver for AP that makes no sense what so ever. I am literally sick of people buying a spirit visage and then I do no damage unless I get a voidstaff which doesnt work for AP fighters and Assassins till last item. I am glad we can agree on AP items being boring stat sticks though a lot of people think AP items are overpowered but they are just boring.

WalkingInACircle1 votes

Give those uppity aps an ad caliber item and they'll start demanding more. AP essence reaver, AP Titanic hydra, AP steraks, where does it end I tell you!

PhearBunny1 votes

Zhonyas is better than GA brother.

Th3 Rift Hero2 votes

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Zhonyas is better than GA brother.

i mean i dont need to time ga and ga give bonus hp when ressurecting

PhearBunny2 votes

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i mean i dont need to time ga and ga give bonus hp when ressurecting

Okay, okay let me rephrase. Zhonyas is better, under the assumption you aren't suffering from a concussion or some kind of mental disability.

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

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Okay, okay let me rephrase. Zhonyas is better, under the assumption you aren't suffering from a concussion or some kind of mental disability.

i mean, i know how to use zhonya but i dont always think about it lol, got adhd too

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