Buff Morgana W atleast Riot?

50CaliberHecate··6 votes·3,401 views

This spell hardly does damage to minions let alone champions, though you don't really max that on Support Morgana which is what 95% of the community places her ingame... She doesn't even heal that much from the damn spell either. I feel as though the heal portion could atleast be buffed if it's not gonna do damage .-.

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Jamaree4 votes

Buff a champion who is currently in a decent spot because the ability that does damage if you build AP doesn't do damage if you don't?

50CaliberHecate1 votes

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Buff a champion who is currently in a decent spot because the ability that does damage if you build AP doesn't do damage if you don't?

I’m sorry but how many support Morgana’s do you see building AP cause’ they are extremely far and few. Half the time, the first items I have to build are the most MR because of AP mage supports being bot (Brand, Neeko, Vel)... so AP is not at all a focus for most. Her W doesn’t even need AP dmg, it just needs a larger heal.... it’s like 1% healing almost all game even with it maxed. I’m not saying make it instant heal but fuck, give her more health than what is.

Jamaree1 votes

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I’m sorry but how many support Morgana’s do you see building AP cause’ they are extremely far and few.

It is almost like she isn't really a support or something, huh.

Her W doesn’t even need AP dmg, it just needs a larger heal.... it’s like 1% healing almost all game even with it maxed. I’m not saying make it instant heal but fuck, give her more health than what is.

Again, why buff a champion already in a good place?

Darkdemon6533 votes

It has almost the highest potential damage of any ability in the game, ignoring infinite stacks. It definitely doesn't need to deal more. What is could use is a lower cost to help bring back the option for Morgana to go mid.

Illabethe1 votes

It does not even have close to the same potential as any other skill. Saying this as someone with over 3.9 million Morgana mastery.

Infernape3 votes

This spell hardly does damage to minions let alone champions

That's intentional. Riot doesn't want morgana to AFK waveclear mid without even interacting with her laning opponent.

Illabethe2 votes

Yet they want everyone ELSE to. News Flash: That's exactly what almost every other mid does, with the exception of Fizz, Yasuo.

Baby Ghoul2 votes

A couple of things I'm seeing wrong here.

First of all, she has one of the highest ban rates in the game, and that's partly due to her deceptively large Q hitbox, so I don't feel comfortable seeing her get a buff until that's fixed. Second of all, she's in a good place regardless. All mage supports are, which brings me to my next point.

Support is where many people play Morgana because of how easy it is to proc Spellthief's Edge. Secondly, she does build AP. She rushes Zhonya's Hourglass and pacts a punch mid game. Does she build purely AP items? Not really and it's for the better because late game utility is far more effective than pure ability power. It's far easier to build MR late game as well.

The Morgana mains upvoting this need to chill before they get their fav permabanned like Pyke.

Illabethe2 votes

She's already being perma banned by the Nautilus meta. I wonder what would happen if the community Perma Banned just Naut, Blitz? I bet Morg ban rates would drop like a rock, because outside of an isolated bot lane situation, Morgana's actually much weaker than supports like Zyra.

(I can pull 18/1/22 Zyra scores in Platinum)

Ethereal Flight1 votes

She's pick/banned for her spell shield not her Q. If you think stuns are why, then Annie, Anivia, Brand supp should be more common.

50CaliberHecate1 votes

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She's pick/banned for her spell shield not her Q. If you think stuns are why, then Annie, Anivia, Brand supp should be more common.

I think if they just gave one other support a spell shield, you’d prolly see her ban rate fluctuate downward. Hell, wanna buff Karma (since Riot constantly states she’s horrible but does nothing about it) make her R + E combo spell shield the whole enemy team! Or wanna Nerf Pyke cause’ he’s insured right now, remove his ridiculous health regen/out of sight bBS and give his stun a spell shield when he engages instead!

There are things that can be done on other champs to buff/nerf them that could revolve around giving other champs accessibility to different, yet old mechanics. I hate that I HAVE to play her every game as support because of Hook Meta... you don’t even see champs other than her and Naut/Blitz/Pyke half the time anymore. Bard, Zyra (tho more common than others), Soraka, and Sona seem hardly played at all in this meta due to the fact that you can easily delete them .-. It’s crazy!

Baby Ghoul1 votes

Where did I say the entire reason was because of her Q hitbox?

MAGE ITEM KEKW2 votes

How about we don't buff an already perfectly balanced champion.

preternatural2 votes

I legit have to ban morgana if I want to be able to play the game as support.

1 Inch and Proud1 votes

i max w first and most of the time always do the most damage in game lol. it does not need to be buffed.

Firebeard1 votes

I don't know much about the new Morgana, but isn't her heal tied to her passive which is essentially free spell vamp? In which case, isn't the healing rate flat across all abilities with regards to the damage output? Essentially, if you want more healing, buy more AP. Or Ardent/Spirit Visage and watch your AD curse you into oblivion.

Jaspers2 votes

Her heal is 20% of damage dealt to champs and large minions/monsters. Doesn't work on small minions. She got an update late season 7 I think that made it so her passive wasn't just spell vamp (10-20% but worked on everything ) to 15% - 40% but only works on champs and large. This was hotfixed in like a day to non-scaling to just 20% (not even a middle ground)

So it's worse than her old passive when you hit level 13 and above and it only works on champs and large minions/monsters.

THEN on her rework, W was changed to have lower base damages and ratio but higher missing HP damages. I'd prefer the old one, that felt useful.

I'd take CC and damage nerfs to Q and R for her passive and W to be buffed.

Ethereal Flight1 votes

If morg needs any buffs it's to her ult. The 3s to take has a really shit payoff and you have to burn your spell shield to get into that tiny ass aoe range.

50CaliberHecate1 votes

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If morg needs any buffs it's to her ult. The 3s to take has a really shit payoff and you have to burn your spell shield to get into that tiny ass aoe range.

I would take a nerd to her Q range/stun duration if it meant a buff to her E and R... I have no issues with her, and nothing to do with her play power atm... she’s just so... linear. Basically 1 play style or else you gonna get fucked

Ethereal Flight1 votes

Even in Worlds she didnt do anything except the same crap every Morg does. I dont think I saw one single R, just Q stuns and E. Morg is one of the most boring champs to play. The only reason people pick ban her is for strategic annoyance with the shield.

NaughtyWord1 votes

Morgana is ban rate is directly related to the hook meta. Nautilus Blitzcrank Leona and Pyke players are too brain dead to play a lane and thus ban their ONLY real counter in the support role. Morgana's Q has basically went unchanged since league released, seriously, they only changed the mana costs here and there and 1 AP scaling way back in the day from 100% AP to 90% AP.

W does in fact do no damage, is easily gotten out of, and is easily the shittiest ability of all champions. Use the practice tool, build whatever you want, and see how much damage her W does on a training dummy that won't move out of it. It is a joke.

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