So riot doesn't want to nerf Riven where is needed

DropFill·May 24, 2015·2 votes·674 views

So nerf her ultimate duration. there is no reason for that ability last 15s

10 Comments

KãtãrinãMay 24, 20151 votes

Mind explaining why you want a nerf? I don't play her but i don't think shes broken or anything. They just nerfed that ult travel speed (So it is flash-able/dodge-able now) Why nerf the duration?

DropFillMay 24, 20151 votes

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Mind explaining why you want a nerf? I don't play her but i don't think shes broken or anything. They just nerfed that ult travel speed (So it is flash-able/dodge-able now) Why nerf the duration?

Her ult was always dodgeable at "full range". doesn't change at close range. Because there is no reason for her to gain a AD boost that scales....with AD and makes every single ability of her stronger for 15s. Her last nerf didn't change anything at all. She is a pain in the ass to play against top, nearly impossible to gank. Fiora is risky. Riven is not even close to how risky is fiora, and fiora is not manaless nor has defensive mobility

KãtãrinãMay 24, 20151 votes

These seem logical and all. I'm not disagreeing with you just wanted your thoughts. I don't really play her ever so. I just think reducing the timer may not do much in the 1v1 department but during teamfights it would help.

DropFillMay 24, 20151 votes

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These seem logical and all. I'm not disagreeing with you just wanted your thoughts. I don't really play her ever so. I just think reducing the timer may not do much in the 1v1 department but during teamfights it would help.

She can mindless engage on pretty much a lot of top laners as soon as she has her ultimate. You are obligated to either by defense against her OR stomp her , in order to not get snowballed I don't know, I think her ultimate gives her waayyy too much AD

ErockandrollMay 25, 20151 votes

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She can mindless engage on pretty much a lot of top laners as soon as she has her ultimate. You are obligated to either by defense against her OR stomp her , in order to not get snowballed I don't know, I think her ultimate gives her waayyy too much AD

Um, not really, Looking on the Wiki, it only gives a total of 20% ad, giving your attacks a 120% AD modifier, You actually get a much Larger damage modifier on your passive than your ult.

Also nerfing her ratio's isn't the right way to deal with this. Her damage is her Identity, she is a lightfighter/Assassin, she has very little in the means of actual CC and her shield lasts a mere 1.5 seconds. She isn't going to dive the entire team, and she will die if focused.

RaxxxusMay 24, 20151 votes

they wont nerf her just like they wont buff kha'zix, they are getting paid to not do certain things!

colesyMay 24, 20151 votes

sounds to me op loses to rivens and gets salty about it

here's the thing, sure the moment she dings 6 she can go balls deep on her laner, but then that's your fault for not keeping enough distance, or playing a champion without CC or dashes to escape in time.

she's only a pain in the ass if you don't respect her levels 1, 2, 3 and 6 damage potential and try to just treat it like a normal lane. personally I love the riven match up, I play irelia and it really boils down to skill whether she gets fed or not, plus if I survive long enough and break even I outscale her and can all-in her once I finish trinity.

DropFillMay 24, 20151 votes

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sounds to me op loses to rivens and gets salty about it

here's the thing, sure the moment she dings 6 she can go balls deep on her laner, but then that's your fault for not keeping enough distance, or playing a champion without CC or dashes to escape in time.

she's only a pain in the ass if you don't respect her levels 1, 2, 3 and 6 damage potential and try to just treat it like a normal lane. personally I love the riven match up, I play irelia and it really boils down to skill whether she gets fed or not, plus if I survive long enough and break even I outscale her and can all-in her once I finish trinity.

Basically, if I get counterpicked I can say goodbye to top laner forever against riven Now I understand. Such balance

colesyMay 25, 20151 votes

well, yeah, there's always some match ups which are so terrible that you have no chance in hell.

play like, any assassin in to cho'gath and watch as your poke does zero damage and he 100-0's you after finishing his rod. play katarina in to riven and watch as she shields every single time you throw your q and if you even dare get close to creeps she'll eat your face off.

play nasus in to a quinn or vayne and watch how you literally are zoned from cs'ing absolutely anything.

so you're left with two choices.

learn how to play your counterpicked champion in the match up and try not to feed
broaden your champion pool so you won't be easily counterpicked by a riven

ALTERNATIVELY

go on to the league boards and make the umpteenth QQ thread about a balanced champion who destroyed you and you're salty so you want to whine.