I wish Syndra felt more rewarding to play

Succubús GF·Dec 23, 2018·2 votes·1,387 views

Her kit is very lack luster in terms of her class. Her damage is very low early for someone who used to be a lane bully. I guarantee you Neeko can easily replace syndra in pro play. |I can already foresee it.

In a league of mobility Syndra just falls flat on her face. Even Syndra mains are struggling to stay even. WR wise and game wise. Her best runes statistically, are taste of blood and ravenous in domination tree. Like... that shouldnt be her best option. It would just be nice to see her playable again.

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PsyrixDec 23, 20181 votes

Syndra is in a pretty fine state... she is a lane bully again, that 20 base dmg increase to q was quite strong, she’s a champ that takes skill to fully bring out her potential and really has no true counters. Syndra will always be a staple in proplay because her kit is pretty flexible, DPS with q, zone control with the balls already in the map (what with their synergy with e) and a single target Nuke. A good Syndra is hard to play against and she’s incredibly fun to play.

Her damage is low if you are unable to consistently land skillshots and/or if u’ve dramatically fallen behind itemizationwise. Mobility hurts, yes, but she’s equipped to deal with it tbh. (E, Q combo first knocks back, then stuns... tho it is harder to do)

Sir RougeDec 23, 20181 votes

{quoted} > and really has no true counters.

That's not true. Champs like Fizz Ekko are true counters, because they deny any possibility of Syndra making a play on them level 6+ (by making her R useless with fizz's E/Ekko's R).

If Syndra goes in on Fizz, he either E's her ult (fully denying it and putting it on cd) or goes in on her. Fizz can also go in on Syndra level 6+ anytime he wants.

If Syndra goes in on Ekko, he R's her ult (fully denying it and putting it on cd) and gains all his hp back from recent damage, aka her settup. Like Fizz, he has all the kill pressure on her, as his E goes through Syndra's E.

As the game goes on, they have more and more kill pressure on her, while she has less and less.

These champs, among others, are constantly picked against her. Fizz Ekko are terrible matchups for Syndra (true counters). Zilean Xerath Velkoz are also bad matchups for Syndra (Zilean's ult, and the range/poke from the other two is too much).

All of this is supported by stats, showing her bad winrate against those champs throughout multiple seasons.

nm1010Dec 23, 20181 votes

Those are hard match ups, but not really “true” counters. A true counter (in my mind) is something like Vayne into chogath where there is basically no room for chogath to even play the game unless his jungle camps for him.

PsyrixDec 23, 20181 votes

Ekko and fizz don't hard counter her.. unless ur ignoring what i said and relegating everything into her ult. A good syndra can and will work around it because it's a skill matchup. Especially with Ekko, if one of them gets ahead, theyre gonna stay ahead (barring particularly ad mistakes/misplays). Fizz is a better contender to Syndra, however she still has multiple opportunities to deal with him...

Zilean's ult counters Syn's all in burst, and they'll generally try to save it for her ult, however she's still incredibly strong without use of the ult.

The "no true counter" is largely in place due to the fact that her kit is flexible, consistent/low cd poke (Q) true dmg on W, long range, large AoE CC (E with its knockback and stun mechanic with existing balls) single target nuke (R)... all this tied into her Q and W not having cast animations means she can dodge while attacking, this is largely what emphasizes a good Syndra over a mediocre Syndra.... If you CC either Ekko or Fizz (specifically the E-Q combo) they will generally try to slip away with trollpole or ult, either wait it out, or time it so ur ult goes off the millisecond they get CC'd.

They aren't really true counters.