can we make ekko a viable jungler again without buffing damage to champions?

RankOneUganda··30 votes·1,219 views

can we please remove the lock out of the passive on jungle champs and make it only on champions. and also make his W procs sooner or do more damage on jungle camps. I mean even then he doesn't have sustain in jungle and at least would be SERVICEABLE

as it is you really can't pick him because he has slow clear, and he cant clear most of the camps anyway.

22 Comments

Kloqdq9 votes

I mean I wouldn't mind it. Jungle Ekko wasn't bad honestly. It was just the pain of it being linked to Tumor Tank Ekko. Since then a lot of that shit has been fixed so I don't see why not. He was a really fun jungler too and I even do it a little bit nowadays.

Disembark6 votes

The biggest reason is that they nerfed his passive from 3 secs to 5 secs. Absolutely kills his clear.

If they simply made is 3 secs on monsters and 5 secs elsewhere it would make jungle Ekko as viable as he might've been before without changing him.

RankOneUganda1 votes

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The biggest reason is that they nerfed his passive from 3 secs to 5 secs. Absolutely kills his clear.

If they simply made is 3 secs on monsters and 5 secs elsewhere it would make jungle Ekko as viable as he might've been before without changing him.

well. not really. because they still nerfed his base damages. and his W damage which worked well against camps.

Disembark1 votes

I used to play Ekko JG a lot. The nerfs were there... but honestly you didn't feel it until the passive change - it was just so huge for JG clear.

Like with some AP runes and maybe even your first component of Runics you kind of cover up the other nerfs - but nothing covers up the TIME nerf on passive.

Spartan Potatoes4 votes

no. [sg-ahri-3]

Blåbæret3 votes

Nah, Ekko is fine. He's not a jng.

xelaker3 votes

he isn't a jung...

GirlsWantMySwag1 votes

Yes pls they nerfed his base damage so much his clear is so ass, the passive having lower cd on jg would really help.

Cowseed1 votes

Don't ap junlgers in general kinda suck atm?

Blåbæret2 votes

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Don't ap junlgers in general kinda suck atm?

Rito doesn't want them to be viable. They even attempted to nerf Elise which is the last AP jungler even remotely usable in the current jungle. Evelynn Fiddlesticks Nidalee none can compete with tanks and AD champs. Even Elise doesn't clear particularly fast. Seems like they want tanks and AD champs to be the only junglers. Not surprised about the AD favoritism tbh.

Takazaki2 votes

Probably because AP jungler when meta are meta defining.

Remember when fiddle sticks was relevant? wombo meta

Eve was meta? at least one person was going to have a shitty day because she rengar'd the fuck out of anyone who wasnt strong enough to fight her.

High elo still remembers jungle nid

Xion The XIV1 votes

Remember when she would max spear instant kill any non tank champion from the fog of war. Those were fun Nidalee days. 100% glad they nerfed her ass into the ground.

Takazaki2 votes

that was mid nid lmao

remember when gragas would do the same shit with barrels?

remember when kayle did it with Q?

remember teemo's OG AP mushrooms

Xion The XIV1 votes

Oh I miss the Teemo shrooms when they had no timer. I loved it when people feared going into the jungle. Someone gets away with 50 hp and just boom. Oh I miss those days.

yay nibbers1 votes

Nidalee can almost compete, you just have to be an actual IRL wizard to play her.

Shadow Hazard1 votes

The sad part is that when they started to target his passive there was so many calls to make the nerf not apply to monsters. Easy. Tank ekko gutted, AP ekko survives with no issues.

Ashen Rider1 votes

Didn't Riot say specifically that they disliked Jungle Ekko, regardless of whether he went AP or tank? Personally I don't dislike it, I used to main it.

AmazoX1 votes

Sounds cancerous to play against but okay. +1 I welcome diversity.

Xion The XIV1 votes

I don't really have a point for either way because I am biased as all hell. Since I have had Nightmares of Ekko just doing a yasuo wind wall on my ults. In which my ult is pixels from him and even explode on him and he ults and damage is gone. But that is only my Bias. I wouldn't mind him being Jungle since his Ganks can be deadly by blocking an entire area of where they can run to with his shield area skill.

Seldrix1 votes

This is kind of how I feel about nautilus. Although I might get a lot of disagreements I feel like a lot of champions have lost their jg capabilities because they're too "strong" in other roles, so what this often results in is several nerfs and no compensation for jg clear.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

Any champion can clear the jungle with item 3751 . You might have a hard first clear, but if you get all 22 CS from the first set of camps (blue, gromp, wolves, raptors, red, krugs) then you will have around 900 gold total including ambient and you can pick up Cinder on your first back.

Chimp Joker1 votes

I'm fine with ekko not being able to go in the jungle.

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