How Do You Beat Graves Top?

Stephenizgod··2 votes·1,820 views

Im not QQing, im literally asking for advice.

I was Volibear and they picked Graves, I figured I'd have a tough lane so Olaf basically camped me and helped me kill him. Pretty sure we got him like 4 or 5 times and he got Olaf once. He then teleports bottom and no one on my team could kill him because he was so tanky. He got several kills then roamed around killing our team. His damage is freakin insane and his low range doesn't matter because he is super tanky. We shut him down in lane so I'm not sure how my team couldn't even fight him off. Even with Steraks and Deadmans plus all tank runes, he could 3 shot me, AA Q on wall then ult.

So obviously I have no clue what happened, what does one do against Graves? He was seemingly tankier then me because he was front lining our team by himself, he outdamaged our LeBlanc who was very fed, and he was too mobile to catch as Olaf and Volibear. He picked after me but for future reference who do I pick against him? Also what should I be building? I didn't think Frozen Heart would be good so I went for Deadmans so i could catch him and Steraks to survive his burst. Didn't work. I couldn't help him killing my entire team because my Tele was down so that I need to live with but even with the same amount of kills and about 10 CS difference there was nothing I could do to him even if i caught him, he was just so damn tanky.

Again, I am not QQing, I don't have any experience laning against him as a Top laner. I can deal with him when he ADC's or Jungles and I have been destroyed by him before but only when he is fed this time I thought I did everything right and still lost.

13 Comments

Akali is SO HOT2 votes

The only melee that can beat him is Irelia and even then if he gets a slight lead he'll destroy her. Otherwise just play ranged cancer to beat ranged cancer

Stephenizgod1 votes

Damn, I don't mean to complain, but how is he allowed to have so much raw damage with range and yet be sooo tanky with mobility... I feel like he should be half as tanky as he currently is and his dash should go only 3/5ths as far as it does... but then that would screw up his other roles. Idk I just feel that Marksmen should not be allowed Top lane.

Akali is SO HOT2 votes

nah fam getting 120 Armor and MR just by dashing around while being a ranged AoE Assassin is perfectly balanced :^)

Stephenizgod1 votes

Lol Riot's balance confuses me sometimes

Stephenizgod1 votes

Going to repeat myself a third time because no matter what I always get those people telling me to stop complaining... I AM ASKING FOR ADVICE

Thank you in advance for any help you can give.

Viperjcs19851 votes

If you want to cheese him, use heimer for lane phase. If you legit need to negate him... you really can't honestly. He is a hero who is going to scale good even without kills. Just need to assassin him.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Bah I hate Heimer haha. Yea his raw damage is so high he doesn't seem to need any damage items to destroy a team.

The Deckowner1 votes

just dont play any melee match up against graves, he is meant to counter all forms of melee champions, play a mage like Lissandra or marksman like Quinn and u will have a much easier time.

Stephenizgod1 votes

What do you think of playing Nautilus into him? I don't really play ranged or mage tops, I really should but i prefer tanks.

The Deckowner1 votes

i think as naut all u can do just max w or e, cs when possible, and ask for jg gank.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Ah ye thats what happened when i was Voli, i just farmed and called for Olaf every time. He still ended up getting fed from other lanes. Alright so basically i should just pick ranged/mage champs against him and hope i dont feed him.

Dehitay1 votes

I've never gone against a Graves top, but I have gone against a Graves jungle while up top and all my main tops seem to stomp him if you want to try one of them: Mundo, Panth, and Urgot.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Panth seems like a good choice against him, a good Mundo is impossible to kill so perhaps i should practice, haha i was going to start maining Urgot once i hit Gold.

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