@Rio Why wasn't one of the mages in most desperate need of change,not looked at?

Lady Hammerlock··7 votes·441 views

Im talking about Heimerdinger the donger,the heimer, the heimerdonger

Eventually Heimerdinger will end up just like Yorick Mori well he kinda is when you think about it...Frustrating Laning Phase,then not much out side of it

and do not shit me with a reason like "uhhhh its because he has hur dur toxic super high no lane interaction wave clear" when shit like Azir and Viktor are allowed to exist

Although I think Heimer fits the bill has a scientist,so he has an identity and he fits it

Problems with him -Lets be honest,his turrets are more of a joke then the post-marksmen update towers -His passive is out of place,Its like the one ability that doesn't fit with him thematically and seems extremely underwhelming -He is to easily countered and barely counters anything himself,Hard engage junglers or simple AOE just destroys heimer also, item 3085 or item 3087 can be devastating for a heimer

Things that i consider good -Outside of the laning phase he isn't the most unhealthy champion,his semi hard to land skill shots are great and should remain so -His ultimate has good options,A team fight stun/heavy slow,his Ult'd W can 1 shot most squishies even if they have defensive items,His Q is great in case you get caught out you plop it down and Zhonya's its also great for zoning

12 Comments

zlumpy2 votes

Bring back long range auto targeted missles!!!

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

Because Rito loves their adc champions and S6 is completely adc meta.

Rito doesn't like mages.Karthus, Orianna, Kassadin, Heimer, Morde, Singed and other apcs.

Lady Hammerlock3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Zmwn2Ai,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-07-07T02:11:29.602+0000)

Because Rito loves their adc champions and S6 is completely adc meta.

Rito doesn't like mages.Karthus, Orianna, Kassadin, Heimer, Morde, Singed and other apcs.

Some of those champions you mentioned are actually not in the rework for a reason -Karthus was in a fine spot and didn't need any changes -orianna conidered one of the most balanced champions to exist didn't need change at risk of breaking her -Kassadin is not considered a mage,he is considered as an Assassin -Morde?are you serious he is NOT an APC he is a juggernaut -i don't even need to say why singed can't be included there,if i remember correctly Singed season 5 was the most orgasmic season he's ever had,he had multiple buffs there

blfUvZ8Ybu2 votes

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Some of those champions you mentioned are actually not in the rework for a reason -Karthus was in a fine spot and didn't need any changes -orianna conidered one of the most balanced champions to exist didn't need change at risk of breaking her -Kassadin is not considered a mage,he is considered as an Assassin -Morde?are you serious he is NOT an APC he is a juggernaut -i don't even need to say why singed can't be included there,if i remember correctly Singed season 5 was the most orgasmic season he's ever had,he had multiple buffs there

Kassadin mage assassin, he isn't ad assassin. Morde is APC.Look his build. Karthus is useless like Heimer. Orianna is balanced but she wasn't strong.

dragon1xx1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Zmwn2Ai,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-07T03:40:55.272+0000)

Kassadin mage assassin, he isn't ad assassin. Morde is APC.Look his build. Karthus is useless like Heimer. Orianna is balanced but she wasn't strong.

Kassadin is a mage assasin, so like kat. Is kat considered like zed more or like karthus more? Morde is a tank/confused ap juggernaut. idk what to do with him Cuz LCS last week didn't take Karthus as NV I really dont think of singed as an ap champ, more as a tank/running sim Orianna is good but not broken.

blfUvZ8Ybu2 votes

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Kassadin is a mage assasin, so like kat. Is kat considered like zed more or like karthus more? Morde is a tank/confused ap juggernaut. idk what to do with him Cuz LCS last week didn't take Karthus as NV I really dont think of singed as an ap champ, more as a tank/running sim Orianna is good but not broken.

Morde isn't tank also Morde hasn't enough tanky.He is AP bruiser as a result he is a mage.Kassadin is mage.Did you see Ninja's Karthus?

Karthus is useless.He did nothing against Anivia.

Ralanr1 votes

Mordekaiser isn't a tank. He can be tanky, but doesn't have the utility to tank.

Lady Hammerlock2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Zmwn2Ai,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-07T03:40:55.272+0000)

Kassadin mage assassin, he isn't ad assassin. Morde is APC.Look his build. Karthus is useless like Heimer. Orianna is balanced but she wasn't strong.

1.AP assassin's exist,and riot considers him more assassin then mage 2.Might be APC but you can't consider him a mage,for god sake he's a juggernaut 3.Has an over 50% + win rate in experienced hands,does good dmg and the slow is quite crippling and quite easy to use 4.You know theres a good reason why a majority of avid orianna players asked riot to NOT rework there champion even if it was the small scope,they consider her balanced and in a fine spot,why change something that didn't need change right?she has a niche,utility,good dmg and not broken and unhealthy at all

KoggyStyle1 votes

karth is fine during a gap closing assassin meta?

dragon1xx1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Snaggle Tooth,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Zmwn2Ai,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2016-07-07T04:09:21.794+0000)

karth is fine during a gap closing assassin meta?

His passive makes him fine

Eevee In A Jar1 votes

Riot doesn't care about balancing you fool.

MorgManBasher1 votes

Please for the love of God stay away from Heimer. They already ruined my support vel'koz

Heimer is one of my favorite champions, I don't want to see him changed. He's usually my go to mid laner and top laner, sometimes my troll support.

Get better at him, there is no reason to mess with him. Always get item 3116 first Then get either item 3285 item 3151 depending if they are stacking HP/magic resist or not. Liandries helps you spread through HP but ludens gives you nice burst, movement speed to run and always applies rylais on everything being hit by ludens stacks, making slow fields everywhere. I usually get the other one right after the other because I love both items on heimer. After that go item 3135 or item 3089 depending on how much Magic resist they have. Go item 3157 if you are being dove and insta killed by assassins, but I rarely get this item to be honest. item 3158 are usually my favorite boot to go, but if I am poor and need magic pen fast I go item 3020

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