Why am I constantly getting matched with 40% win rate teammates ?

option paralysis·Mar 12, 2019·10 votes·4,972 views

I have a 70% win rate on my smurf, used to be higher, but I got 0/10 teammates on my team so much, I can't even carry them in silver. Then I started to check their profiles and I consistently saw that they're like 100 games played at a 40-45% win rate. And it happens literally 90% of games I'm in. Just now I q-ed up and checked my whole team, 2 were at 44% win rate and other 2 unranked. Like what the fuck ?

How can I not look at this as the system trying to drag me down or some shit ? Just give me good players so I can leave this elo faster and don't have to smurf anymore.

21 Comments

SaiannaMar 12, 201910 votes

Simple rule of "hard 50% winrate". If you do too well, matchmaker WILL find a way to forcefully drag you down. That's why winstreaks are followed by massivly unbalanced onesided crappy defeat streaks.

It's bullshit system.

KarunamonMar 12, 20194 votes

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Simple rule of "hard 50% winrate". If you do too well, matchmaker WILL find a way to forcefully drag you down. That's why winstreaks are followed by massivly unbalanced onesided crappy defeat streaks.

This is a misunderstanding of how the matchmaker works.

The oft-misquoted "strives for a 50% WR" is the goal of any matchmaking system, ever designed, anywhere, because a game you have a 50/50 chance at is the most fair.

WR isn't even looked at. What's being looked at is MMR(elo), which you can't see (because we're too stupid to understand it).

Those people are in your games because the combined team MMR is within a certain bracket of the opposing team's MMR. All the other stats like winrate, league, and so forth are purely cosmetic - nothing matters to the matchmaker but MMR.

Flip a coin 100 times, there will be long runs of heads and long runs of tails. The coin isn't "trying" to do anything. It just happens that way.

Furious DelishaMar 12, 20195 votes

No, you are misunderstanding the implementation of the system. If someone is playing basketball at an NCAA level, you don't pair him up with 4 kids off the street and tell them to play against the community adult basketball club to get that 50% win rate. You SHOULD put that NCAA level player in an NCAA level team, against NCAA level opponents. To think that a 50% winrate is reasonable as a means without proper implenentation is ludicrous and dimwitted.

SaiannaMar 12, 20193 votes

At this point I'm tired of explaining it. Either someone thinks i'm tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theory seeking idiot, or they take me as condescending a-hole.

So.. Thanks for help :)

EfframMar 13, 20191 votes

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At this point I'm tied of explaining it. Either someone thinks i'm tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theory seeking idiot, or they take me as condescending a-hole.

So.. Thanks for help :)

I totally agree with you. Matchmaking is rough. Agree with OP as well. Placements went great, last month has been hell, I don't even want to look at my w/l ratio.

Minimac2000Mar 13, 20191 votes

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No, you are misunderstanding the implementation of the system. If someone is playing basketball at an NCAA level, you don't pair him up with 4 kids off the street and tell them to play against the community adult basketball club to get that 50% win rate. You SHOULD put that NCAA level player in an NCAA level team, against NCAA level opponents. To think that a 50% winrate is reasonable as a means without proper implenentation is ludicrous and dimwitted.

..... ..... .... He stated he is smurfing in silver which means he's an NCAA player on a middle school team against other middle schoolers. His middle schoolers just happen to suck more. But he's the one smurfing, so it's on him We don't care buddy

AsudJun 12, 20191 votes

THats what they tell us not what it really is. System works to keep you where you are, effectively sabotaging your games every time you get close on in promotion. You need to get stupidly lucky of be actually way better than your rank to succeed in 5 game promos.

Super SandmanneMar 12, 20195 votes

Well if those guys are queuing up someone has to be their fifth. I guess the jank matchmaking thinks giving them a 70% smurf will even things out lol

Daddy AntsMar 12, 20193 votes

Game quality sucks even in LOW elo.

FOR JUSTICEMar 12, 20192 votes

I mean my adc last game had a whopping 0% winrate, with that game being her first win. My botlane got shit on, but i helped yi pick up a few early kills. Mid was behind, but not shit on.

I have a p high winrate though. Lux had 40% and everyone else except cait had about a 50%

Whats worse is how i was a tank.

Still won tho

DuskDaUmbreonMar 13, 20191 votes

That sounds like they had roughly 2 games then...

FOR JUSTICEMar 13, 20191 votes

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That sounds like they had roughly 2 games then...

they were on like their fifth i think. was a strait up loss streak

DuskDaUmbreonMar 13, 20191 votes

5 is still a pretty low sample size...

FOR JUSTICEMar 13, 20191 votes

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5 is still a pretty low sample size...

5 losses in a row.

And she ended 4/11

DuskDaUmbreonMar 13, 20191 votes

Okay? 5 games is still a minuscule sample size, and sometimes you just get huge losing streaks.

XhaidenMar 12, 20191 votes

Try Flex "RANK". And see what it's like to play with team mates from Iron/Bronze vs Diamond/Plat.

And THAT To advanced to Bronze 1. 90% of times FLEX is "pure Bullying".

XhaidenMar 12, 20191 votes

Here's a screenshot from last game (3 minutes ago / and 30 minutes since my post from above)

http://i66.tinypic.com/2vahx94.jpg

As mentioned above... PURE BULLYING!!! Loosing sux and winning can be great "but not like that". It was exactly like being part of a gang of 17 year olds (over 200 pounds each ) and beating a bunch of skinny 13 year olds. Maybe smurfs, or some bullies with very low self esteem (same thing basically - since that's the main reason behind smurfing) enjoy winning this type of games - but i do not.😑

SammyDayspringMar 13, 20191 votes

We are giving ratings based on team performance, but unless you can carry every game as an individual regardless of your role, you can't climb. It doesn't make a lot of sense.

C9 FluidityJun 12, 20191 votes

As one of those 40% win rate players (40.32% at last check) we don't particularly want to be matched with you either, because matching with people who are significantly better game after game after game isn't fun, and especially when said players start flaming us, when we might still be figuring out which roles and champs really fit us best. Try looking at it from both sides.

LF COACHINGJun 27, 20194 votes

There's ur problem... You literally should NOT be playing roles / champs you're not familiar with in ranked, it's dragging your team down. You play ranked when you have a solid understanding of the game / role / champ, and that IS why you have a 40.32% wr.. This isn't improving, you're griefing by not playing shit you are comfortable with. You'll be flamed by pretty much everyone if you feed and int because you're not playing something you're good at. Improving is one thing, but straight up first timing roles / champs in ranked, should honestly be classified as trolling and bannable. First timing / learning new things is for normals, not ranked.

Doctor MundoJan 5, 20201 votes

Eh trying to level up an account just to do Mundo Only and i go up against enemy laners literally going 20/0 on broken champs when fed Like Yasuo, Pyke, Caitlyn Even Kled game and its just like when there 0/5 in 4 minutes used Ghost & Teleport died both times their laner already has first item its like huh like 1/5 games i get an actual decent player but the other 3 are just like NAH IM, meanwhile their whole team are just like 20/0 and cause of this i have like a 40% win rate it just doesn't seem to make much sense however i did get 2 S in a row one game i actually but still got an S and ever since i've just been getting those teammates. almost everygame i get first drake at 6 mintues but our team i 0/10 so we lose every other drake but i do get herald at 8 minutes aswell and my laners usually back when i use it.