Galio has gone from tank to mage to support, more changes when?

Moody P·Mar 19, 2019·3 votes·1,840 views

might just be me but IMO if you trash a champ heralded as THE mid lane tank and then he just becomes a support you might have an issue, yeah?

I don't think most Galio players would like him migrating into bot lane

Might be that his grossly all-encompassing kit that is permanently relevant in pro as long as he isn't unplayable tier needs a little fat trimmed off of it if the last 10 attempts at throwing his numbers around didn't work out so well?

solcrushed BTW

30 Comments

InfernapeMar 19, 20194 votes

I wouldn't mind if they got rid of the ult.

The ults most of the reason why he's so relevant in competitive play.

MarshbouyMar 19, 20191 votes

Dunno why this is getting downvoted. Global or semi-global TP abilities always make a champion busted in pro play.

Salvor HardınMar 19, 20191 votes

Bring back his old W shield whit heal on the W and change the R for the old one.

Moody PMar 19, 20192 votes

people hate that I speak the truth

MarshbouyMar 19, 20192 votes

it's honestly extremely hard to tell if people are downvoting because you're wrong or downvoting you because they are angry that you're challenging their preconceived notions.

I just downvote you for the hell of it most of the time.

InfernapeMar 19, 20191 votes

I don't really care about the downvotes. I played enough of and witnessed both Shen and Galio being nerfed relentlessly because of Stand United and Hero's Entrance.

IVlaverickMar 19, 20191 votes

Unless the enemy team is being held down by Amumu ult or something then they can just walk out of it. It's as bad as Pantheon ult.

Salvor HardınMar 19, 20192 votes

FULL REVERT OLD GALIO.

Abibyama IIMar 19, 20194 votes

So people won't play him

Sebastit7dMar 19, 20193 votes

I'd say, keep his dash but revert the rest of his kit. The only reason old Galio wasn't played was because of his lack of flexibility, all he could ever do was flash ult. that's it.

Salvor HardınMar 19, 20192 votes

all he could ever do was flash ult

And win the game. Also, old Galio win AP whit MR, he has a usefull kit, his E tornado gives mov speed.

Sebastit7dMar 19, 20191 votes

Galio was a great counter to mages, for sure but that also meant he was very situational. his E was underwhelming as hell as it was a shitty nocturne Q. His W and ult were the most interesting parts of his kit tbh. I loved him and i mained him for months before the rework but he was VERY VERY VERY situational and had not many options to engage.

Salvor HardınMar 20, 20191 votes

You can play old Galio against a full AD team, just build AP instead of MR, i still remember wins against Talon, Zed, Yasuos, etc.

LordGeovanniMar 25, 20191 votes

Nocture only helps nocturne Galio E is kled ult for whole team on a low as hell cooldown.

LordGeovanniMar 19, 20191 votes

Everyone says keep his dash but you can walk the same distance in the same amount of time due to how clunky it is. His old E was my favorite ability in his Kit. Most people wont care beause they play safe ranged champions or assassins with redicilous damage and mobility at the same time.

Sebastit7dMar 19, 20191 votes

His dash is incredibly fast now though, and his old E didn't help at all since he had no real gap closer either way, plus you could just walk to the side and space away from him.

LordGeovanniMar 19, 20191 votes

Like i say i E with galio and i walk and i reach the same point with his walk as i reach with his E by time as the self stun at the end of E wears off. Galios Old E didnt help in the minds of most players because most players played him like a btch and sat back as if he was syndra (with half the damage) with no auto attacks and q spammed but he has a smaller mana pool and more mana costs and only played for the flash ult. you played him like a melee bruiser he does well into tank matchups and versus other non juggernaut melee brusiers. he was bad because he had less hp than the average champion and less mana too while players played him something like he was not.

Sebastit7dMar 20, 20191 votes

You can't be serious about comparing a little speed boost with an actual dash that has a knockup and juking mechanics, also if you use it backwards on a taunted enemy they get hit even faster, are you bronze? how can you say they have the same impact?

LordGeovanniMar 20, 20191 votes

the E speed boost was more damage and on a shorter cooldown. It was more useful for self and bruiser allies. Because galio's E is so clunky is easy to dodge since it jumps back locked in direction then goes forward. There is no need to Knock up a taunted enemy you only waste your cc duration by doing that.

Sebastit7dMar 21, 20191 votes

You really didn't even do research before typing your comment did you? Galio's current E and his old version (at least by the time he got reworked) had a longer CD at all ranks, less damage at all ranks but the last, which was the same, higher mana costs and 40% less AP scaling.

You clearly have no clue about what you're talking about.

For context:

Justice Punch TARGET RANGE: 650 SPEED: 2300 COST: 50 MANA COOLDOWN: 12 / 11 / 10 / 9 / 8 100 / 135 / 170 / 205 / 240 (+ 90% AP)

Righteous Gust RANGE: 1180 COST: 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80 MANA COOLDOWN: 13 / 12 / 11 / 10 / 9 MAGIC DAMAGE: 60 / 105 / 150 / 195 / 240 (+ 50% AP)

the E speed boost was more damage and on a shorter cooldown. It was more useful for self and bruiser allies. Because galio's E is so clunky is easy to dodge since it jumps back locked in direction then goes forward.

???

LordGeovanniMar 22, 20191 votes

Please forget the 1.75 seconds you are stuck in Justice punch animation that isnt counting down versus Old galio being a mage gettting cooldowns as soon as the button is pressed instead of after the spell has fizzled out because thats what riot does to mage and adc kits versus tanks and supports. Righetious gust was also aoe. and Galio was allowed to build ap in his previous version.

Sebastit7dMar 25, 20191 votes

Please forget the 1.75 seconds you are stuck in Justice punch animation

And again you don't even do some research before posting. It's a 0.4 sec delay, it's extremely short and the dash is very fast after the buffs. and despite Justice punch not having the AoE that Righteous Gust had, it's still with no doubt the superior ability.

LordGeovanniMar 25, 20191 votes

0.4 inital cast before moving i wont disupte (much) after his intial jump back but you want to ignore the time the moving takes and the gratuitous slide he takes after the E which he is locked into if he doesnt hit it while being clunky and initally moving yourself away from where you want to go. some of it may be cut when hitting an enemy but not very much.

LordGeovanniMar 19, 20191 votes

give him real stats and you 100% fix that problem

Dorans PantsMar 19, 20192 votes

with how many mid champs are getting relegated to support but not vice versa you would think that this position would run out of champs at some point. Maybe that explains why I am always seeing the same 2 guys there.

IVlaverickMar 19, 20191 votes

Now it's all Zyra Velkoz Xerath .

Galio was inevitable

Dorans PantsMar 19, 20191 votes

So this is what Agent Smith meant.

IVlaverickMar 19, 20191 votes

ha ha omg... yup!

IVlaverickMar 19, 20191 votes

Galio main here.

After the disgusting nerfs to him making him unplayable and forced out of mid and top except for specific match ups he's truly good against, you have the gall to suggest further nerfs when people do the logical thing and try to find a new spot for him?

Well too bad. He's already been nerfed into the ground. I spam him as support now because I love this champion and it's the ONLY place he does well now.

Wanna know some hard counters to him?

Draven taunt this and he overwhelms you Thresh can hook you, his ult counters your all in, he can save his teammates with lantern, and his E fucks up your all in Pyke constant stuns, invis bullshit, dashes, a hook, and an ult that counters your all in with it's execution damage Ezreal Amazing poke and mobility mean he never will be in range to taunt and all in