Please let us remake if the jungler doesn't have smite

Why can't smite automatically be selected at the start of the champion select if someone has the jungle role? They can change it if they want to trade.

Id rather just have one of the junglers summoner spells be hardlocked to smite. Cut out the middle man. There were some points in league history where you could jungle without smite but with the inclusion of the jungle items and the reduced exp without them they clearly never want that to happen again. If the jungler HAS to take smite why give them the option to not take it?

If this happened people would troll.

Step 1) Convince your jungler to give you his role.

Step 2) Get rid of your smite at the last second.

Step 3) /remake and he gets punished for no reason.

What if someone traded roles with the Jungler and then forgot smite? Would the person with the initial "Jungle Role" still get the blame?

i think riot should allow people to change their summoner spells and mastery pages when the game starts (like a 2 minute window to change your stuff) in case someone forgets to change on accident they can do it in game

Okay, one - if you didn't take smite, that's on you. Not sure why the game should fix your mistakes for ya. What's going to be next? Remake if you took wrong masteries?

Two - it would make for a perfect abuse case: "Let's go double top and if we can't snowball then we remake".

Three - if your jungler forgot smite and cannot function without it (so, most junglers), why did he go jungle instead of just going top as a support? I've done something similar several times in ranked (back in S4 and S5) and it's alright-ish (not exactly great, but way better than have a "jungler" that's unable to even do a clear).

You should be able to officially swap roles in the lobby just like you can do with champions. And the jungler should always have smite as a forced summoner spell.

Too easily abused. Team up with friends, see a comp that looks badly for you, convince your jungler friend to "Forget" Smite, so you can remake.

LOL was he afk for part of the game?

As someone who's forgotten Smite before, it'd be nice if I didn't have to open Task Manager to disconnect my game before it loads. I'll take the lp loss.

If your jungler is level 2 at 9 mins, even without smite then there must be a deeper problem. Having no smite is a disadvantage early game but if your team plays it correctly then you catch up and win. I have won and lost to countless games with a no-smite jungler. The worst thing you can do is flame him/her for forgetting or feed your lane then blame them. Just offer what support you can and try to win.

As a jungler main I think i have forgotten smite 1 time this season, it was my bad so i dc'd at start of game without buying or leaving fountain, so team could remake. I took the hit

that said if a jungler forgets smite, Unless they were completely afk in lobby there were 4 teammembers that could have pointed it out

Some junglers might not want to take the loss and Away queue debuff, In cases like these your zac would be better off going duo top

How about we do like I do, and politly ask the fool that forgot smite to Alt+F4 so we can remake, and if they dont, report them for trolling.

Honestly Im tired of having to wipe peoples asses for them cause they cant remember to do it themselves and always reminding the lobby to check summoners spells, and masteries/runes.

Have I forgotton the correct rune set, masteries before? Yeah I have. Do I grief my team with a smitless jungle in hopes they carry me? No, I have a checklist system that involves "I just selected my champ, now Il pick summoners spells, runes, masteries, now Im done."

Getting them wrong usually involves like 5+ lobbies from dodges where I eventually end up auto-filled, and even then only rarely slip up if I changed champs to not play into a counter.

This is an old issue, and it comes down to asking people to take their face out of their phone or stop alt-tabbing to look at reddit while theyre in a lobby and pay just the smallest amount of attention.

You realize that people could abuse this and purposely not take smite to remake games without having to dodge, right? Like if they didn't like their teams draft or didn't like their teammates but didn't want to be penalized for dodging.

It burns me up to no end that Riot won't come up with a solution for this OBVIOUS ****ING problem. At this point, I don't know why Smite is tied to Machete anyway.

I'd kinda prefer if riot would just remove the necessity of the summoner spell.

next time that happens tell the moron to quit so you can remake.

it's his fault for not taking smite, it;s your teams fault for not telling him to suck it up and take a 5 minute leaver buster penalty for leaving and letting everyone remake.

obviously you couldnt quit cuz promos, but everyone done fucked up for not forcing the remake when you got a jg with no smite.

I would abuse the crap out of that if they changed it. Every time champ select showed a losing lane for my team I would remake.

What a troll, In my placements I just had to take the bullet and go afk for the remake because the stupid guy without smite refused to alt + f4. "As if I go afk, I'll lose anyway xD"... wow.