How is LeBlanc fair?

Diamond Frostman··3 votes·1,294 views

I would like somebody to explain this concept to me. How is dashing out, dealing damage and then getting the ability to blink back out of danger for massive safety in lane fair? Because people really do go tooth and nail trying to defend her horrible design. This woman has more burst in one of her abilities then a Brand combo. Her Q is point and click so its not even required to aim it to get the damage amplification effect off.

How does she take skill when she can kill people halfway down the lane with one move and then blink back to perfect safety. Say what you want about Katarina being toxic but at least she is all or nothing. I really do hate champion designs like this because they are simply toxic, having that much damage and mobility is just simply NOT FAIR.

Also her cooldowns are just rediculous, I have never seen an ultimate up that fast on any other champion and her passive, although annoying can be rediculous as well, giving her even more safety in lane.

I really cannot see this any other way.

8 Comments

PhantomGG3 votes

Her wave clear is none existant so anyone who can push waves easily such as a yasuo or a ahri or a malzahar constantly keaps her on her toes.

Her Q actually has a much shorter range then her W, so the moment she starts to walk toward a person just about everyone knows thats her prepping the combo and begins to back away from her. So the only reliable way to start anything is to use your blink to use a Q chain combo, and thats only if you can land the chains.

The only way she can wave clear is if she uses her spells to do so, which will quickly cost her, her mana, so if you have a douche bag jungler who hogs blues, then rip your mana pool.

Honestly if you really wanna know why shes fair then play her yourself and all your questions will be answered, not to mention she also falls off late game, and is terrible in just about any team comp simply because she lacks a synergizeing toolkit.

Live2LetDie1 votes

Lb falls off hard if she doesn't dominate lane. Just lasting lane phase means she loses. Also she is so squish killing her is not hard.

Diamond Frostman2 votes

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Lb falls off hard if she doesn't dominate lane. Just lasting lane phase means she loses. Also she is so squish killing her is not hard.

Its not about killing her, its about how "fair" she is. Her kit is simply unhealthy in my opinion as she lacks options to deal with her other then bum-rush her.

Kitty Clarissa1 votes

to be fair she is still one of the squishiest assassins in the game, i mean if she gets CCed she is most likely dead or injured , but burst is what makes her who she is. She is unfair if she is ahead ill admit but if she is behind she cant really do much .

Nahui1 votes

She's squishy, she's telegraphed, and she falls off late game.

She's an assassin. She excels in 1v1 vs squishies. If a mage could easily 1v1 an assassin, then the mage is broken and the assassin is underpowered. You need to aim skills at where she teleported from at the right time to hit her. Also, stay out of dashing range. It's not too far, and most mages can easily stay out.

And yeah, she needs to kill in lane. If she falls behind, she will have an issue in the game. She will awkwardly jump in, almost kill the ADC, then get auto'd and sustained to death. She's a lane bully, but like so, falls off late game.

ThatWood5Guy1 votes

Because with all those escapes, she can't get away from tibbers stun follow up w nuke.

khorney1 votes

also her passive you forgot to mention that. i mean it doesnt matter how fed i am as renagr i cannot take lb if she is remotely fed..... kat on the other hand i can easily kill regardless if she fed , and if im fed. simply due to the fact that typical kat will try to ult me and that works in my favor because my q will kill her faster then her utl can kill me. but lb i cannot do anything about ......

Vekkna1 votes

The answers to your questions are already in your OP: Brand Katarina either shit on or outscale LB. Here's some examples:

Brand If LB can QW or QE you, you can EQW her without taking much damage. If you die to her after 6 it's your own fault, even then you'll still exchange kills from your dots because she's that squish.

Katarina LB's so squishy that your Q poke actually sticks to her and whittles her down hard, and your Q bounces will outrange her. If you can E her during her W, you will blink to her starting location and avoid all her W damage. Place a pink ward or trinket ward under your turret so you can always Shunpo back if she tries to go in on you and you aren't healthy enough to be stuck between her and her turret. Rush item 3001 and rank Q>E>W>W>W>R>Qmax to make sure you have enough aoe to secure a kill if she splits.

Lux Q her if she tries to W or E. Shield if you get marked or chained. Poke the living fuck out of her with E.

Malzahar Should be super obvious. E her directly and you win. Zone with Q and W. Save R for her W. Q at your feet when she uses W, and she won't be able to finish her kill combo OR teleport back. You fuck her so hard.

Heimerdinger Also obvious. She's super weak to being pushed under tower and denied CS and roams. Heimer's the master of this. She also has no way of killing turrets without taking TONS of damage, especially if she ranks W first (like always) she will take turret damage for the full travel time.

Annie Sit on your stun for levels 2-3 and Q or W if she goes in on you. E if you get marked. At 6, Q stun her into RW for freelo. Follow roams and pick up some early swifties to dodge/chase/follow before upgrading to Sorcs later on. Grab a Negatron if she gets fed by jungler or side lanes.

Anivia She can never kill both you and your egg. Play safe til 6 and then farm her ass afterward. Q when she uses W, but she will be using all her spells under tower.

Ahri All skillshots LB can't W through, and charm pulls her out of W. Ahri's QW mean LB can't hide behind minion packs, and R makes you basically juke-proof.

Fizz RE her W and she's dead and you take no damage.

Azir Soldiers chunk her so hard that she'll be at half health just trying to get in position to QW you. You crush her.

Lulu You can Q or W LB's W or shield or ult yourself if you get marked. Lulu never loses to Leblanc unless the Lulu is literally braindead.

Kassadin Obviously.

Morgana Obviously.

Syndra Your Q and W outrange her, and your QE and E knock her out of her W. If she tries to kill you at all, you can hit R to almost 1-shot her, and she can't juke your R damage at all.

Velkoz You can die if you aren't careful, but you can easily out-poke and out-push her very safely.

TwistedFate You outrange, outroam, and outpush and can stun her out of her W. In fact, you can force her to back off just by cycling Pick a Card if she's looking thirsty.

Veigar She can't W through your stun on the dash, and you 1-shot her with R pretty quickly since she stacks AP so hard.

Vladimir W her W and crush lane.

Zyra E her W. Stand right on top of 2 plants and troll the fuck out of her auto-target Q if she's looking thirsty. Your ulti can cover the entire distance between her W start and end points, so she has no way to get out of the area without blowing her mimic W to get out of dodge.

That should help. Also, the fastest way to find out how to beat a Leblanc is to play her. Even if you lose hard early, patience and utility will usually win you the game, which is why her win rate is so low despite being rather strong at the moment.

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