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Just revert Akali

Śhunpo·1/25/2020, 5:37:36 PM·29 votes·12,359 views

As much as I love the rework, I always knew it was going to be an unbalanceable piece of shit. I mean, that's just the CertainlyT special, give a champion 10 million different ways of handling a situation with little to no downsides.

At least with old Akali her kit was balanceable, as in you could just tweak her numbers and she would go back to being at least somewhat balanced again. You tweak ANYTHING with a CertainlyT flavor to it and suddenly the champion is either sitting at 36% win rate or a 54% win rate, or in Akali's case, completely and utterly disgusting in professional play as she's a "safe" assassin who plays more akin to a diving bruiser with escapes...who always gets in the low 40s and 30s in terms of win rate % when she's ever nerfed.

We've all seen the circus level changes on the PBE, so let's just get old Akali back and go from there, at least until Riot can actually design a proper rework for her that doesn't involve her having 6 forms of self-peel, 6 forms of chasing your ass across the entire lane and like 10 separate instances of damage; because for some reason giving an assassin a spammable auto passive was a good idea.

Again, I for one love the rework, it actually made me play Akali more to the point where she's now my secondary...but even I can admit that this rework will never be fair and it's gotta go.

41 Comments

The entire team1/25/2020, 5:43:44 PM14 votes

Ngl, both versions of Akali are stupid. One is faceroll, the other is overloaded. I guess it’s a pick your poison.

Weiss Guertena1/25/2020, 7:06:13 PM11 votes

Y'all need to stop looking at old Akali through rose-colored glasses. As bad as new one is, old one was a hundred times worse. First of all, she had 100% of her damage as point-and-click. On an assassin, a class designed to kill fast, having no way to outplay their damaging abilities is a huge problem by itself. And then she also had built-in sustain. On top of that, a 3-charge dash which also refunded charges on takedown. This all led to her being stat check personified: if she had enough numbers she'd jump on someone, murder them with zero counterplay while healing to full and proceed to repeat on closest still living enemy champion. If she didn't have enough numbers her team was playing 4v5 as she brought literally nothing at that point.

Balanceable? Not by a long shot. Old Akali was either completely oppressive or dumpster tier with no middle ground. Better to continue working on new version for as long as needed than bring that abomination back in any form.

Thresh Outta Fux1/26/2020, 5:29:16 AM4 votes

And revert Malz too.

metroman4501/25/2020, 5:43:24 PM4 votes

Well Sett needs a little nerf but I wish the person who designed Sett has also designed Akali. [zombie-nunu-bummed]

RayleighTT1/25/2020, 5:46:38 PM3 votes

poor quality work in those reworks , she was much different back old days... , she was countered by a pink ward... , and was quitly good on her position as engager... , if there was a figth as adc you had to take care ,now i doubt she can do so much..

Mordekaiser was totally fine having that ultimate ,but Riot come up with the idea of making a broken ultimate ,which literally kill you.. , or force you to buy an item to escape it... , just feels stupidly wrong.. . Played today vs a mordekaiser he was so fucking broken , i hate his w pull , i mean there coulded be something else ,is just frustrating to watch a swain q.. with higher range ... , even swain q is less frustrating that this seems to be... , he also gain shields without limits.... (We need an item who breaks throught shield powers.. , something like executioner but working against shields.)

kda akali1/27/2020, 1:34:34 AM2 votes

I would be fine with reverting Akali if they created a new champ with her same passive, it's honestly my favorite thing about playing her. I could see a skirmisher work well with it. It's basically already a more refined version of Riven's Q animation cancel.

It would be cool if she was an area control skirmisher where she sets up in a spot and she's powerful there but when she gets out she's weaker.

xelaker1/26/2020, 1:38:33 AM2 votes

"just revert X" is the dumbest thing anyone ever says on the boards... why on earth would they do that? You piss off anyone happy with the current one, then lose out all the effort, time and money you put into the rework. Just gut her until you gently bring her up to a decent balance.

FakeGravity1/26/2020, 3:03:57 PM1 votes

i had to play akali once in aram, i never really play her so i just got that guardian horn and roll with it. then i saw the problem with her. she is just so fun to play but so annoying to deal with for the enemy, and damage seems to come out of nowhere with her, then you get your gunblade and things just get worst for the enemy, i think one of the mayor issues is gunblade and how powerful it is for her, if you remove it she would be much more balance in terms of damage and being able to punish her at all stages of the game

Garson2111/26/2020, 6:57:54 PM1 votes

Akali can be ok but they need to delete some stuff from her kit. From my side there is 3 ways to easy balance her. 1 Delete AD scaling completly.- no more gunblade abusing. 2 Make her scaling with AD items not Ap (simple because that AP items are cheap and giving to much dmg) 3 Start deleting extra shit form her skills. Her pasive: "Swinging Kama: Akali's next basic attack gains 125 bonus range, deals 39-180 (based on level) (+0.6 per bonus attack damage) (+50% of ability power) bonus magic damage and restores 10 / 15 / 20 energy." -Why she even get extra range?And energy restore?She restore it in 5 sec anyway without this...

Like Her E "Akali flips backward and fires a shuriken forward" - delete first part so she need to use cloud or one stack of ult.

Her Q "At rank 5, Five Point Strike deals 25% bonus magic damage to minions and monsters." - Delete,she have enought dmg anyway.

Or change energy for mana dunno

Akali Prime1/25/2020, 6:21:26 PM1 votes

no.