As a Rengar player, I have to say

Hibeki··2 votes·431 views

If rengar uses his empowered W, chances are you aren't dying.

Rengar loses a lot of killing potential without empowered Q, and while you wont be able to cc him you still will most definitely be able to kill him before his Q comes off cd.

I really don't see a problem with rengar at the moment, its just people dont know how to group together/work out where he is based on who is closest, then keep the squishy the farthest away.

It's pretty easy. if your support is still alive and youre an adc sitting in bot, you can pretty easily work out where hes going to be and position yourself behind the support, or vice versa.

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Aptest2 votes

we've been hearing the "rengar is ok, l2p" argument from rengar mains for years now. we don't think you've ever had a case with that line.

Steel Blossom2 votes

Nah, ADCs have to be able to split push all the way to enemy base by themselves without being killed so long as they dodge a skillshot every other minute. We can't have someone who punishes vulnerable squishies who suck dick at rotating and grouping in a team-oriented strategy game, that'd be absurd!

Cocho2 votes

meanwhile we look at the competitive scene

http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/picksandbans.php?id=ALL&season=S7&split=Spring

~75% banrate ~25% pick rate ~80% winrate

Even LCS dont know how to gruop ;pol;

Variks the Loyal1 votes

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meanwhile we look at the competitive scene

http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/picksandbans.php?id=ALL&season=S7&split=Spring

~75% banrate ~25% pick rate ~80% winrate

And Lee Sin/Elise have been a constant since forever.

Since when has the competitive scene ever had an effect on a champions effectiveness/power in solo queue?

Tormentula1 votes

Rengar is still pretty bullshit.

While no, I don't believe he's the op ban that wins games when left open, he's a champion who can get way out of control way too fast. He's a champion who's counterplay is "don't feed him" and that's not exactly a healthy promise when there's 5 potential targets being the jungler.

If I ban rengar its not because I can't deal with him, its because I can't deal with him if he finds my team or myself mispositioned, unlike a lot of champions which I can easily shutdown myself or control the actions of, once he gets rolling there's no stopping with his current passive, in addition to all his new empowered abilities (basically just W) making it harder to catch him.

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Since when has the competitive scene ever had an effect on a champions effectiveness/power in solo queue?

It has an effect sooner or later.

Gragas RekSai item 3070

But nah, I find rengar's LCS ban pretty big tbh. The fact that LCS ranked teams who are constantly grouped have to ban a predictable assassin just shows how overbearing he is to even peel off their carries. I don't believe assassins had bans or picks in S6 at all. Why nidalee, elise, lee, etc are banned is because of competitive reasons like "they can peel, catch, put objective pressure, jungle control, player's small jungle pool, force team compositions, etc" rengar is banned based on sheer force and power alone.

Cocho1 votes

A champion that shines when players are unorganized, is permabanned in pro play lol

BluePolarizer1 votes

just a question: how do you sleep at night maining this champ?

Hibeki1 votes

Pretty well knowing that pretty much every game I'm vs 3 cancer champs anyway

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