Sooo I was thinking we bring back Juggernaut and give it the passive burn 
(Help tanks clear speeds keep up with "bruisers" building warrior)
Andddd put the 25% bonus health on a new item or even 
and take out the hp regen or reduce it.. just my 2cents..
Tanks still get massive hp, still get passive burn.. and no more top lane smite.. looks like a bunch of "winning" changes to me but others may disagree.
TakkysApprentic11 votesI like that idea, but top lane smite forces them to sacrifice another spell and isn't as scary as top lane TP to me, just another person to kill before Drag and Baron.
Dreadlocks2 votesI understand.. but even champs who would usually of built warrior (vi, reksai, jarvan) are building cinderhulk.. it outclasses all the other jungle items soo hard.
masterdragon4811 votesI don't really think that this change would stop Vi and Reksai from building the tank jungle item. With their consistent CC and team utility (and their ability to get damage from other items) I don't see why the free damage and stats this item would provide would lose out to warrior.
I also think that juggernaut would be a little too effective this way. Providing burn, tenacity, cdr, and health is a LOT in one item, putting it head and shoulders above the other enchantments and making it far too cost efficient to remain at the price it currently is at.
Related to the price, this recipe would need to change to include bambi's cinder and a kindlegem to account for the different stats it was getting. This will make acquiring the final item harder to accomplish in a timely manner and ultimately slow tanks down.
Dreadlocks1 voteswell yeah i guess we'd need to replace the CDR with the burn.. i really like cinderhulk.. i just hate how it out classes everything now..
masterdragon4811 votesThe burn is necessary. It's the whole reason tanks are becoming viable in the jungle (as opposed to damage dealers like lee sin). It needs to be toned down against champions and it looks like that is exactly what is going to happen.
Dreadlocks1 votesExactly i 100% agree which is why im saying take the CDR out and give it the bamis
Erockandroll1 votesI would feel like that would be the exact opposite direction that riot want's to go.
You don't want to put the 25% health on another item, that A) the tank Jungler would Just get anyway (considering you would give them the early health back with Juggernaut.) and b) would be easier for the top lane tank to get. (along side a sun fire cape) which would nearly bring us back to where we started.
I don't even thing Cinder hulk is the main problem here. I think that challenging smite is what's essentially allowing top laners to take a Jungle item w/o much risk.
Lugg1 votesRiot just needs to change the health buff from 25% to 20% and everything would be fine.
Grimmrock1 votesTossing this out there, Rek'sai benefits heavily from Warrior to BC right now. like, to a point of incredulity.