Would building PD after Black Cleaver on Darius into juggernaut work?

Pyrithegethon··1 votes·768 views

Thought process is that it gives dueling power, lets you build stacks quickly, and is cheap as well. Would build PD then either go full tank or titanic hydra to do a ton of autos. Final build would look something like item 3071 item 3046 item 3047 item 3748 item 3065 item 3742 or item 3071 item 3046 item 3047 item 3065 item 3143 item 3194

Thoughts?

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Ralanr1 votes

I feel it's better on Garen because his E can crit.

TimX24968B1 votes

I still don't get crit garen because why would you play him for damage? I would rather take item 3812 for sustain

Ralanr2 votes

Why even build crit on a juggernaut at all?

Sujiren1 votes

In theory it could, Ive been doing something similar on Urgot, with cleaver, deaths dance, phantom dancer, tabi randuin, and something like maw. It's similar to old graves build, win every other game with that build.

Variks the Loyal1 votes

I feel like item 3812 will almost always be better than PD on Darius. It's still damage reduction (Albeit delayed damage), it's not conditional on damaging an enemy, gives you full physical vamp, doesn't require you to AA to get it's full effectiveness, and grants CDR.

Jbels1 votes

Darius doesn't need PD to duel people. All he needs is Cleaver and he's pretty much set for the mid game. If you snowball then Titanic Hydra might be nice

woodvsmurph1 votes

it works if you are:

  1. low elo (no higher than gold probably)
  2. "good" with darius (for your elo)
  3. depends on lane opponent - some champs just wreck darius
  4. depends on enemy team - do they have a fed ap or ad champ that will destroy your hp bar before you can catch them?
TimX24968B1 votes

I prefer item 3078 (you can take it before or after cleaver) for that kind of attack speed. try that instead of PD. it will also make your W deal DOUBLE DAMAGE

BobaFlautist1 votes

It would definitely function, and there are some "hidden" benefits - the move speed and "ghost" would help him get on and stick to targets, which he struggles with, his w can crit for some unexpectedly high burst, and the attack-speed would help him get his passive off faster and help him apply it to other targets more easily.

But while attack-speed is good on him, it's not as good as ad, hp, armor, mr, or cdr, and while this would make his dueling hilarious it would reduce his 1v2 power, which any good Darius knows is important. If you don't rush an item that gives hp, it's a lot harder to outplay well played jungle ganks until you get one, and Darius is a huge gank target.

Plus it gives no cdr, and against people that know how to play around his ranges his Q cooldown is a huge, huge deal.

So, verdict? Fun, hilarious, and potentially effective, bit sadly not as strong as meta builds. Maybe better if the jungle meta slows down, though it would still be a risky pick.

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