Honestly Pyke doesn’t really do anything new...

xxxMadLionxxx·May 14, 2018·5 votes·2,097 views

The champ kit looks fun, but there isn’t really anything new here. Just a bunch of variations on skills that are already in the game.

I’m a little disappointed tbh.

10 Comments

KennysDreamGirlMay 14, 20183 votes

since when did every champion have to do something new? over 130 champions dude, chill

SukishooMay 14, 20183 votes

He does something new. He can give full gold and credit to others, who else does that?

Umbral RegentMay 14, 20183 votes

I would argue that his Phantom Undertow and Death From Below are fairly new.

Phantom Undertow's shadow-image dash+stun is a pretty unique paradigm, compared to the usual stunning dashes like Gragas' Body Slam or Sejuani's Arctic Assault. No other Champion to my knowledge has a dash quite like Pyke's.
Death From Below is a fairly interesting spin on certain other abilities - it's an AoE skillshot cleave with execute potential, with a small leap/blink. Sure, it's got a reset a la Noxian Guillotine, but it's still fairly unique in comparison.
Failing that, Death From Below's shared bounty mechanic is absolutely new. No other Champion can share Kill Gold.
And, while it is just a spin on the Gray Health mechanic Tahm Kench introduced, I still gotta give Gift of the Drowned Ones credit for requiring you to be out of sight for it to trigger.

The DrBonjigolloMay 14, 20181 votes

his dash looks like a delayed Shen dash to me, except they attached his Q's slow mechanic. Death from below is more or less Noxian Riftwalk, Darius's ult + Kassadin's aoe dash Yeah the bounty thing is definetly new and cool, period His passive looks like a mix of Tahm's grey health mechanic and Khazix's passive stealth damage thing.

Late For TeaMay 14, 20183 votes

Why does he have to do something new (even though he does)? He provides a very unique and refreshing take on the support role. Yes his abilities may be somewhat similar to those of other champions, but supports won't be playing those champions anyway.

Poop JellyMay 14, 20182 votes

I kinda expected more as well, because in a AskRiot (..I think it was there) post, they said they were going to slow down the process of making champions because they want each of them to "break bounderies", this is just recycling.

StaconaMay 14, 20181 votes

Besides giving allies kill gold for his executes... also a camouflage support. His E is also a new mechanic.

Spank the FoxMay 14, 20181 votes

Literally what people said about Jhin, but turned out to be one of the most fun releases.

Teridax68May 15, 20181 votes

I largely agree, while I like Pyke's E and delayed dash effect, the rest of his gameplay is stuff we've seen already before. Hooks in particular are fairly overdone at this point, his innate regen is Tahm Kench's E, his camouflage is a stripped-down version of what we've seen on Twitch and Rengar, and his ult is a variation of Darius's, with a bit of gold-sharing added on for the sake of him going support. Darius himself already has a hook and an execute ult, so even when discussing combinations of different effects, there are some parallels. The most novel aspect of him is that he's an assassin going support, but even that's been done in a fairly shallow and artificial manner, with little in his kit that is has him interact with his team for their sake.