Why does Garen have:

datfatguy·Dec 31, 2016·5 votes·1,128 views

-- Out of combat health regeneration -- A move speed buff that removes slows AND also comes with an auto attack empower -- Extra armour and magic resist that is PERMANENT -- Damage reduction -- A spin that can critically strike AND shred armour -- An execute that can sometimes do true damage to a particular opponent -- Auto attacks that also can do true damage to a particular opponent

He is also cheap and easy to play

Yes, I'm being salty, but why does Garen have all of these? Just get and two defensive items and he is un-killable.

13 Comments

TyrekGoldenspearDec 31, 20165 votes

What Mira said. Also because: http://imgur.com/W0wVY4c.gif?noredirect

Mira Arya EntheDec 31, 20164 votes

Garen has an out of date and bad kit design, but is by no means overpowered.

Malicious MetalDec 31, 20166 votes

He's too binary to ever feel fair IMHO

Just like Mordekaiser they lack meaningful, and rather obvious, counterplay when ahead.

Mira Arya EntheDec 31, 20162 votes

Basically, Shyvana is pretty close up there too. I liked the Darius rework, even if overtuned he has more counterplay now.

Tychusfindlay919Jan 4, 20171 votes

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Basically, Shyvana is pretty close up there too. I liked the Darius rework, even if overtuned he has more counterplay now.

"even if overtuned"

Except he isn't, it's just the current meta and the mastery keystone changes that put him there.

Darius alone hasn't received a single balance change since the end of season 5.

Mira Arya EntheJan 4, 20171 votes

Shhhh, have to pander to angry lol players. I haven't felt Darius is unfair since his post rework tuning.

TyrekGoldenspearDec 31, 20161 votes

I noticed that a lot of binary champions have very little options.

Garen has to get in someone's face to Spin2Win, then Justice them in the face.

Morde has to get up close, bash them in the face, and then enslave their soul.

They have only one thing they can do well, and lack options, so taking it away cripples them, which is why kiting them hurts them so badly. Because they have only one way to contribute meaningfully to fights they have to be really strong in their area to be viable at all, and that is what makes them overbearing if they are buffed.

Also, if my long-winded thought was exactly what "binary" means, then please forgive my stupidity. XD I honestly didn't know what the word meant in context of League.

Critmaster GarenDec 31, 20163 votes

why does anyone have anything?

tbh, its a really dumb question youre asking there.

RogueWillDec 31, 20162 votes

Because you can see him coming miles away.

Garen only feels OP if you position yourself badly, and that is the main reason you don't see him on any kind of competitive play (not even on amateur tourneys). Also, champions that are usually worse since they have less options if something goes wrong so is usually hit or miss with them.

MarshbouyDec 31, 20162 votes

initially i thought this was a satire based off the camille QQ threads. I was wrong.

LadracDec 31, 20161 votes

Because he is the Might of Demacia, dude...

CalabokDec 31, 20161 votes

Garen needs no explanation.

Tychusfindlay919Jan 4, 20171 votes

"Extra armor... PERMANENT"

Garen also has shit-tier base armor, and the "PERMANENT" armor he gets is bonus, so once the enemy gets an LW, garen is fucked to high hell. Compare his base armor to other juggernauts like illaoi and darius and you'll laugh.

His base HP is also kind of meh given his juggernaut style of play.

His passive actually inhibits him more than helps him, so it's kind of funny that you point that out as one of your grievances.