"B!tching" needs to be handled a different direction.

Hibeki··3 votes·870 views

Currently it's seen as a negative thing and is punishable. Seems right, it's annoying, and promotes abusive behavior.

But you haven't looked at the other sides.

B!tching is a player seeing something is wrong, and asking why it has been done wrong and why it hasn't been fixed yet.

Now this is a GREAT leadership skill, they just handle it the wrong way. We need to promote this skill while at the same time giving the player a different way to exert it.

Any ideas?

10 Comments

Friendly Cop4 votes

Here's my two cents: people need to stop being so god damn sensitive.

Sightless663 votes

Now this is a GREAT leadership skill, they just handle it the wrong way.

Handling it this way is what makes it a terrible leadership skill. It's not hard to recognize problems. That doesn't take leadership. It does take leadership to address the problems without getting emotional or upset, without casting undue blame, without making assigning blame the focus of the complaints, and without casing insults or getting aggressive. All of that helps to communicate with other people and help them bring the best possibility for success. Bitching does all of that wrong. It tries to blame people for mistakes, it gets extremely aggressive, and it creates responses almost entirely from emotion. It's a terrible communication strategy, and it completely lacks any leadership elements.

If you want an idea, here's one: tell players that questioning why someone made a mistake is a terrible idea. It gets you nothing, particularly when the answer usually won't improve future play. Giving proposals for what to do instead and developing plans is a much more effective use of limited time and it actually has a chance of bringing a team together. Bitching and whining won't.

Hibeki1 votes

Not everyone has problem solving skills.

Bitching can be whining, but it can also be "Why the fuck didn't you take dragon while i was top" etc.

Scarge1 votes

Which is basically whining. Unless you have a QQ-powered time machine somewhere, saying something like that does nothing to help you or the team. It just makes whoever didn't go for dragon more likely to be upset.

Something like 'next time [this situation occurs] go for drag, they can't contest' is a lot better, because it sidesteps the 'YOU made this mistake' feeling and is entirely proactive. I can go for the next dragon. I can't go for the one that died 10 seconds ago.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

There is nothing good about that aggressive statement. It only encourages an aggressive response/arguing.

Sightless663 votes

Why the fuck didn't you take dragon while i was top" etc.

That is whining. It doesn't matter why they didn't take dragon. It's completely irrelevant. There is no leadership in complaining about mistakes. What is important is establishing plans for future action and trying to improve team communication. That does neither of those.

Matthias91191 votes

Constructive criticism is generally fine and the ability to deliver it can be considered a leadership skill. Especially in terms of getting your team to buy into a plan to turn the game around.

"Bitching" is just randomly complaining about someone else's performance. It is a highly negative thing. If all you're doing is pointing out what's going wrong, you're not showing any sort of leadership -- just placing blame.

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

You...do know that the Boards don't have the censorship of the old forums, correct?

Hellioning1 votes

Great leadership is not telling me 'gj Ez, you missed everything!' I am aware of that! I know I missed everything, I was kinda there, I got killed by the Vayne for it. I wasn't sitting there, scratching my head, wondering why my abilities didn't do damage.

Constructive criticism is great and necessary, but one League match is not a particularly good place to get into how badly you're doing in lane, especially in solo queue.

AloneInTheCrowd1 votes

We need to bitch more ? I don't get it .

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