Shaco simple fix

The Ecdysiast··1 votes·446 views

Shaco Shaco has everything a jungler could want. A blink summoner 4 and cloak, a clone that can confuse enemies (and literally block the mouse), a fear that can be placed in advance and damages (also takes buffs with no problem), and a passive to force an enemy to either die in a front-fight, or die running away.

Although from the kit itself it's obvious he needs to be toned down a bit, I feel there are two things that could be done to take away the advantage he has over any non-tank jungler (and over anyone else's gank prowess besides Yi)

  1. Make his two-shiv poison a skillshot instead of targeted. It already does 20% more damage when enemies are running, why is it fair to give him a guaranteed ranged hit as well? Not to say that it should have increased range. It should stay at what it is but be changed to a skillshot so that enemies that can't become untargetable and wouldn't buy Zhonya's have a chance to avoid it.

  2. Make his clone untargetable and give it a max range away from the real Shaco. The ability itself says it's an illusion, so it shouldn't be able to block shots. 'Cause even if you fire at an illusion, the shot should simply pass through it. And targeted abilities can be wasted on it even if the enemy knows it's the fake, since its model can block the access to anothers'. I say make it untargetable to prevent it from blocking attacks from players and turrets. Leave the damage and ability to attack, since if the turret has the right target, it shouldn't make a difference anyway. Give it a max range away from Shaco so that he can't just walk away and let it attack an objective. It won't be an enormous crutch to him either, as it will still confuse the enemy and disorient them when they try to attack it thinking it's the real deal.

Any thoughts on these suggestions?

Update

The clone should not be able to attack a objective at all. While they could explain the power as an attack on the mind, so that it can damage enemies, a turret doesn't have the kind of mind that should be fooled. Why in hell, then, can this "illusion" deal real damage to inanimate objects? Simple answer: it shouldn't.

5 Comments

SouL1ess2 votes

"Make a skill a skillshot"

"Don't give any compensation"

No.

Whoever suggests this need to understand that skillshots have their own benefits, whether its almost twice as long range, higher damage, CC, or mana cost / spammability.

Changing something that is a point-and-click spell to a skillshot without compensation will, realistically, never happen.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

It gets compensation in the fact it deals 20% more damage anyway because the enemy is running, and can do nothing short of stopping completely and turning around to lower the damage. So it NEEDS no compensation. It already has the compensation in the fact it applies his passive. Or they could keep it a targeted ability and LOSE the appliance of his passive.

Lumus Avatar1 votes

My problem with the clone being untargettable and still able to attack is that now it gets free damage on the enemy. Yeah the real Shaco has to stay "nearby" and there's no longer a way to mistake it for the real Shaco, but now it can just attack champs and turrets without being cc-able, stoppable or killable.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

No, because while you're not able to kill IT, you could kill the real one. It's not free damage, it's damage it'd be doing anyway because one usually doesn't target it in a fight anyway since it wastes time. And by "nearby" I meant within the radius of a turret, so he couldn't sit outside turret range and let it attack. Though thinking now, it really shouldn't be able to attack turrets. It's not like he has to work to get the clone, like Mord does with a ghost, so it shouldn't be allowed to attack a turret. It makes sense to allow it to basic champions, as an illusion of an attack will make the brain assume the body is hurt, but turrets shouldn't be fooled into thinking they're being hurt like that.

killd0zer1 votes

Shaco is pretty hilariously weak right now. He's a complete cheese/gimmick champion in todays roster

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