Can riot stop completely ignoring lulu?

RexSaur·4/15/2017, 3:01:12 PM·30 votes·1,893 views

Having to play against that cancer almost every game in normals has gotten old, just nerf her already, isnt having a over 85% pick/ban in ranked plat/diamond+ a sign enough here riot?

Just because shes a support doesnt mean she cannot be stupidly overpowered.

29 Comments

abca984/15/2017, 6:45:46 PM11 votes

Meanwhile I haven't seen a Lulu in weeks...

Dasdi964/15/2017, 3:07:04 PM6 votes

Look, I would much rather lane against lulu than a zyra or brand.

DarkRitual4/15/2017, 9:43:35 PM5 votes

She's not really OP. She's just really strong in the current meta. The Midseason changes will likely lower her p/b rates pretty good. Either way, I think waiting to see what impact that has before making significant changes.

Only Play Darius4/15/2017, 5:24:51 PM5 votes

Their response is probably going to be the same as what they gave for item 3047, her strength is due to the current meta of trying to dump damage on someone as quickly as you can and Lulu doesn't let you do that.

Clementine4/16/2017, 2:46:54 AM5 votes

Lulu is probably okay, the meta favours her since there's an assassin every game.

Mannny4/15/2017, 6:43:49 PM4 votes

Ivern is a very strong and overtuned champion and he has been addressed. Despite the fact that he is a support in the jungle he brings summoner 11 which automatically gives him a ticket to the Riot nerf team. Riot needs to learn all champions support or not will be OP.

Yaśuo Main4/16/2017, 3:02:22 AM3 votes

Can we actually make supports as viable as Lulu instead of nerfing everything?

Handy Sandy 4/15/2017, 3:05:59 PM2 votes

At least people are playing support now.

Weasel Kensei4/16/2017, 4:08:58 AM2 votes

Here is a comment from another thread that talks about this...

Shes not overpowered so much as she is very good against and with popular META choices at the moment.

You can take that link for more discussions, and I will copy+paste my comment here that explains the issue on why shes banned so much.


Lulu counters stuff thats popular at the moment, all while working well with stuff that is popular at the moment.

She works well in supporting and stopping:

Yasuo Lucian Pantheon Renekton Vi Caitlyn Jhin Ahri Darius (and others)

Those are nothing compared to some of her stronger synergy champs she can support:

Aatrox Gragas LeeSin Camille(and others)

Notice those are divers, she can hit them with her E for a shield and extra damage, W for move speed and atk speed for engage, then R to knock targets up and give them more health to rampage with as well as a melee range AoE slow. She is a diver force multiplier.

Also... divers are pretty strong at the moment, so a support that makes them stronger (also much safer) will of course seem really good.

Why ban Lulu? Well you cant ban all the champs she makes stronger, so ban the one that makes all of them stronger. This is also a smart ban if youre playing an assassin or diver... or marksman she can shutdown. It really sucks to have your Jhin ult canceled by being polymorphoed.

Speaking of shutting champs down:

Fizz Zed Velkoz Akali JarvanIV KogMaw MasterYi (and others)

Those guys get their shit stopped cold and can often die in counter reprisal from Lulus W, R lockdown, then shielding the assassin target with E, and slowing with Q.

But...

Consider that Janna, Taric, and Sona (especially Sona) all have higher win rates, and can do a lot of the same stuff... I think its mostly a combination of the sheeple effect and the META. "I hear Lulu is OP, I see her banned a lot, I better ban her... baaa." Even when she woudlnt be a cold shutdown to their champ, or the enemy composition isnt diver based, they ban based on fear and habit instead of reason and strategy. Of course some people are banning because Lulu could stop their assassination attempts or want to avoid empowered divers.

Malix Farwin4/16/2017, 11:49:14 AM1 votes

She counter's the high burst meta comp which is perfectly fine. If you know they are picking here for anti burst then build a poke/sustain comp. Just made she doesn't allow you to 100%-0 People. There are quite a bit of supports that are also good at protecting their adc like Taric, Braum, and janna. Much likee when people were complaining about Annie when she countered the meta, it eventually shifted and people stopped.