I don't get it, Rene allowed to abuse Essence while Urgot not allowed to have Sterak ?

ValiantKiller··12 votes·5,497 views

Like i love the logic of that, They did disable item 3053 from ranged champions which include urgot cause ranged was abusing it But when a mana less champion like Renekton abuse item 3508 it's fine ? okey

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heroikc5 votes

Well, they nerfed Ornn even when he was at 46% winrate, are trying to convert Poppy into a bruiser, and are stifling half of their roster to foster variety...

ValiantKiller3 votes

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Well, they nerfed Ornn even when he was at 46% winrate, are trying to convert Poppy into a bruiser, and are stifling half of their roster to foster variety...

That is true sadly.

Ðeath XIII5 votes

Do we disable ER Lucian because he has a way to use ER more effectively than other champs? No? Steraks got changed because ranged as a whole was abusing the shield. Why don't we also disable PTA for Shyv/Renek because they use it too well! WHY NOT.

ValiantKiller1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ðeath XIII,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1KveBNbO,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-07-08T20:13:57.363+0000)

Do we disable ER Lucian because he has a way to use ER more effectively than other champs? No? Steraks got changed because ranged as a whole was abusing the shield. Why don't we also disable PTA for Shyv/Renek because they use it too well! WHY NOT.

There is a big difference between Rene and Lucain, Rene is already busted with his stuns and healing during fury effect of his R plus add to them that his W keep proc easily basic attacks make it impossible to escape him when he use R and impossible to trade him as well due to his Healing and stuns.

And i here talking about why urgot not allowed to have item 3053 to stop that burst damage while some champions allowed to use things and abuse it like that.

Vectros3 votes

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There is a big difference between Rene and Lucain, Rene is already busted with his stuns and healing during fury effect of his R plus add to them that his W keep proc easily basic attacks make it impossible to escape him when he use R and impossible to trade him as well due to his Healing and stuns.

And i here talking about why urgot not allowed to have item 3053 to stop that burst damage while some champions allowed to use things and abuse it like that.

49.7% WR is busted.

OK.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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49.7% WR is busted.

OK.

Look at his pick rate to his win rate , and look at urgot winrate to his pick rate.

Vectros1 votes

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Look at his pick rate to his win rate , and look at urgot winrate to his pick rate.

7.8%, he's the 48th most popular champion. Hardly astounding.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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7.8%, he's the 48th most popular champion. Hardly astounding.

That mean more chance that his winrate drop cause the larger number of people that play him

Poop Johnson3 votes

Renekton is ""abusing"" ER because of his W's extra hits combined with his long CDs while Riven, Garen, Shy, and Aatrox wouldn't be caught dead with it. Also ranged champions aren't wasting any stats while Renekton is buys an passive he can't use and mana.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Renekton is ""abusing"" ER because of his W's extra hits combined with his long CDs while Riven, Garen, Shy, and Aatrox wouldn't be caught dead with it. Also ranged champions aren't wasting any stats while Renekton is buys an passive he can't use and mana.

Urgot would throw a defensive status or frozen malet for sterak, so i think it fair for him to have it since he will choose between item 3053 against burst team or item 3022 against mobile team.

S V 2 votes

Kinda unfair especially in current patch metals that are really anti-adc. Items like Sterak's helped ranged characters survive through the burst and lockdown potential of champions (Such as LB or Renekton) but w/e. Patches are a mess and the gameplay is getting gutted with the era of funneling strats.

ValiantKiller2 votes

[{quoted}](name=S V ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1KveBNbO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-08T09:50:32.052+0000)

Kinda unfair especially in current patch metals that are really anti-adc. Items like Sterak's helped ranged characters survive through the burst and lockdown potential of champions (Such as LB or Renekton) but w/e. Patches are a mess and the gameplay is getting gutted with the era of funneling strats.

What is worst on Urgot i can't burst down Rene at all, He will use his Ult + Sterak shield + Essence CDR to rekt me while all what i got to do is try to tank his damage by thronmail and frozen mallet ? Like it so annoying and that why urgot is so gutted in this meta.

Lets have shrex1 votes

Or Ezreal item 3025

ValiantKiller1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lets have shrex,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1KveBNbO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-08T11:12:31.632+0000)

Or Ezreal item 3025

Yah more of that.

Vectros1 votes

Thank you for stating the obvious. Now read my second part; hardly astounding. As in, it's not that high really. Not even top 30%.

If he was top 10%, I'd agree, but he's no where near it.

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