Probably the least conditional damage of any modern juggernaut and its so strong in base and scaling.
IMHO you should chunk his sunfire aura hard and make his damage primarily come from auto attacks and his Q. Also think it needs to be harder to achieve, at either 4 or 5 stacks before activating so that the aura isn't basically a forgone conclusion in every trade
Lugg6 votesMorde has TONS of counterplay. Just don't let him get on you. It's literally no different than facing Darius, except that if Morde misses his pull, you have a HUGE window to abuse him. Half the champions in the game have abilities and passives that proc on 3 hits.
Xavanic2 votesMorde has TONS of counterplay. Just don't let him get on you. It's literally no different than facing Darius, except that if Morde misses his pull, you have a HUGE window to abuse him. Half the champions in the game have abilities and passives that proc on 3 hits.
his passive is a little overloaded rn, 130 dmg + 5% max health per sec is a little much, but he needs compensation buffs
Rifter341 votesThe problem is he has seriously low cool downs.. if you take a look at his cool downs it's very low. He can still punish you because he HAS this advantage. Just take the cool down keystone the damage and armor keystones and find out yourself. He needs to be nerfed because he cannot be stopped.
Malicious Metal4 votes20ish seconds across the board except Q is low?
Xavanic5 votesfirst of all, the least conditional dmg of any Juggernaut is darius bleed, he has to hit you once with nearly anything and he gets it, but yeah, it does feel a little ridiculous, i feel what should happen is one of these things
Anime Fizz1 votesfirst of all, the least conditional dmg of any Juggernaut is darius bleed, he has to hit you once with nearly anything and he gets it, but yeah, it does feel a little ridiculous, i feel what should happen is one of these things
- Cut passive dmg in half, grant an additional tick of passive dmg on morde AA's
- Cut in half, but allow morde shield to scale (Rn it stays at 30/15 let it scale to say 60/30 or something)
- Cut in half, but give morde hyrbid ratios (legit, there is very limited options for manaless ap champs rn)
- Cut in half, but give morde 2 charges of Q
Considering how broken he is right now, its going to be cut in half and then also more nerfs to the rest of his kit.
Xavanic4 votes[{quoted}](name=Anime Fizz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1IvT6TwK,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-12T22:20:50.622+0000)
Considering how broken he is right now, its going to be cut in half and then also more nerfs to the rest of his kit.
he's not that broken though....tbh outside of his passive, he feels a lot weaker then most jugguarnauts, esp since he's lacking a real ult for dps
Sir Saltarin1 votesHe is broken tho
Xavanic1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1IvT6TwK,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T08:33:45.560+0000)
He is broken tho
its literally his passive being overloaded....his ratios are actually pretty shit, Q has a 90% ap ratio when it gets the bonus...and E has like 40% ratio, but pulling too much dmg will just dumpster him and leave him olafed, he can't build some of the core ap bruiser items without wasted stats (abyssal, RoA) so he is forced to build a weird full ap build or straight tank with liandry's, this is his problem rn, he seems broken because stupid ppl feed him
nm10101 votesHe has built in 25% magic pen. That stacks additively with void, meaning he has a constant 65% pen. No shit has ratios are going to be below average, anything close to a normal character's ratios and he would destroy everything.
Xavanic1 votesHe has built in 25% magic pen. That stacks additively with void, meaning he has a constant 65% pen. No shit has ratios are going to be below average, anything close to a normal character's ratios and he would destroy everything.
if he's building void, you should have no problem killing him, since he squish asf, your just looking at ratios and think, op, not realizing if he misses his E he has no gap closer, no mobility, nothing to pull you him, he's literally a sitting duck, plus darius literally has a nearly identical passive on his E but its armor pen
Lugg1 votesI think they need to lower his passive damage and move that power into his shield/heal and his W damage since it's a skillshot that can be outplayed.
Nyarlathοtep5 votesWell it has to be strong. He literally has 2 damaging abilities.
Sewer Side4 votes4-5 stacks?
Ok, then make Darius need 10 stacks to get Noxian Might :^)
For real, how do you expect Morde to proc 5 attacks with no auto reset and two damaging abilties before the enemy just walks away. His pull doesn’t even have a slow attached, and depending on the range from which you grasp, doesn’t even pull them into auto range.
Critmaster Garen1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1IvT6TwK,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-12T23:47:24.969+0000)
His pull doesn’t even have a slow attached
until he completes his first item. lets be real here, there is no scenario in which morde doesnt build rylais.
i honestly think rylais in general is just aids and should be deleted from the game because it hurts already slow champions more than it helps them, but thats unlikely.
i still think increasing his passive primer from 3 to 4 stacks is a good idea. his base damage is really not that crazy compared to some of the other juggers. like darius still shits on morde in a 1v1 damage wise.
Crescent Dusk1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1IvT6TwK,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-13T14:25:34.820+0000)
until he completes his first item. lets be real here, there is no scenario in which morde doesnt build rylais.
i honestly think rylais in general is just aids and should be deleted from the game because it hurts already slow champions more than it helps them, but thats unlikely.
i still think increasing his passive primer from 3 to 4 stacks is a good idea. his base damage is really not that crazy compared to some of the other juggers. like darius still shits on morde in a 1v1 damage wise.
His first item is Liandry's. Either way, battle mages like Annie or Swain or even Vlad rely on Rylai's to do anything without flash, so it'd be pretty dumb to punish them just because some people don't like being slowed by an item.
I hate Twin Shadows on Lux and Glacial Augment on Ahri, but that doesn't mean the items or rune should be removed just because a few champs use it to great effect.
Crescent Dusk2 votesPlay aftershock Darius and dump on him. Morde is not that bad, he only becomes truly strong within ult, and he's hot garbage in teamfights since he needs to do consistent damage to shield and he's so easily pinned down with now slows unlike Darius and his pull is a worse version of Apprehend.
He's just a worse Darius, people will get over it.
I'll take a fed Aaatrox/Darius/Irelia/Riven over Morde any day.
Lovelle1 votesUgh I would rather not deal with any of them fed.
Mid Nidalee1 votesI think they should rebalance passive to be w and w to be passive imo
Kristoph Gavin1 votesGood meme, now get the fuck out of here
5050BS1 votesIt does over 50% of the damage pre lvl 6 It needs nerfed
I would say have it ramp up over 4s. After 4s is when he gets the movement speed and % hps
Kristoph Gavin1 votesSure, let's also reduce E's hitbox by half and remove the isolated bonus damage on his Q, why won't we
