Riot should give AA based fighters their respective niches

Eyesack··3 votes·429 views

Theres not really a reason to pick aatrox or shyvana or xin while irelia exists. This is a problem with the diving fighter class as a whole: their kits are all so linear and basically do the same thing, so the only reason to pick one over another is if their itemization and numbers are flat out better than the rest.

Easiest solution to this is to give each of these champs a niche, or a reason to pick them beyond their sheer power.

Aatrox would be easy, and it would be a fix that matches his thematic. Rework his ult entirely. This is how i would do it.

Turn The Tide: Aatrox passively inspires his allies as he fights. He gains stacks for each of his autos (think jax passive). These stacks give him and his nearby allies bonus attack speed and movespeed towards enemies. Upon his passive triggering he automatically gains full stacks. Active: can only be cast when aatrox is below half health:draws in the blood of his foes, dealing 10%(+ad scaling) max hp from enemies around him and healing himself and nearby allies for that amount.

Now his ult fits his theme of inspiring his allies and it helps turn the tide of battle.

Shyvana is a pretty simple fix to me. Make her ultimate do what it says it does: actually carry her enemies through the entire dragons flight. This means shyvana can now make awesome impactful plays if she manages to flank the enemy team. And if you really wanted to spice it up, you could make it so her ult carries allies as well. That way she could use it to make an awesome escape, or launch her team into the baron it to contest it and stop the other team. Basically you could make dragons flight actually be an ultimate and shyv would be pickable.

Fix xin? Again, super easy. Make his e a skillshot instead of a target ability. Bam now he has escape so he can be played toplane, although itll still be gated by the high cd if he doesnt proc q's. And not only that, but now he has a positioning tool for his disperse ultimate, meaning he can make plays even if hes behind.

So those are my ideas. Obviously these changes are strict buffs to these champions. But it would give them their niches as fighters, and if they are op you could just nerf them. Even so, they would still be better off because then they have a reason to be picked without just being 'the best of their class'. Just my ideas if you decide to do a fighter update.

6 Comments

redniwediS2 votes

Irelia definitely doesn't push Shyvanna and Xin out. These three already have good niche uses.

Aatrox is universally accepted as a champion who needs help. Personally I'd like to see his ult turned into something like old Sion ult.

Eyesack1 votes

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Irelia definitely doesn't push Shyvanna and Xin out. These three already have good niche uses.

Aatrox is universally accepted as a champion who needs help. Personally I'd like to see his ult turned into something like old Sion ult.

Cmon man, you cant say the champs have niche uses and then not tell me the niche uses... Irelia and xin do the exact same thing right now: jump on the enemy adc, cc them and try to kill them. Shyvana is a fast jungler but that niche is simply done better by nidalee and not only that but shyv brings nothing to the table in a teamfight if shes behind

redniwediS1 votes

Why can't I? Their niches seem ridiculously obvious to me.

It's not about what they do. We have way too many champions to keep every single one unique in that regard. It's all about how they do what they do.

Eyesack1 votes

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Why can't I? Their niches seem ridiculously obvious to me.

It's not about what they do. We have way too many champions to keep every single one unique in that regard. It's all about how they do what they do.

Again, xin and irelia do those things in the exact same way. Target gapcloser, right click, cc ability. Rinse and repeat. What i'd prefer is maybe xin tries to position himself between an adc and their peel and then use his disperse ulti, or ult some enemies off of his own adc and then finish the disengage by e'ing away. I'm talking about giving these champions options, making them less linear and therefore more diverse AND more satisfying to play. I want the game to be a more healthy experience, for people to be rewarded for making good choices. Rather than being stuck with one choice and its a bad choice if youre behind.

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

These actually arnt bad ideas, i mained xin and hes fun of course in jungle.

But everyone else does him so much more with so much less

The shyvanna stuff im a little iffy on, because tri-force and cinderhaulk actually make her good so i think shes fine.

Aatrox is just mia tbh.

Registeel12341 votes

Theres not really a reason to pick aatrox

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