@Riot Marksmen balance is giving me headaches right now and your PBE changes too

doublelift fg·1/27/2017, 8:39:00 PM·31 votes·1,969 views

just one week ago was totally broken outclassing every adc in mid game except few that were also strong And now 7.2 i'm able to play against her, but WAIT my entire team gets destroyed in 2 seconds by with lethality build while her ulti channeling time is 5 seconds

aside from who is gamebreaking since 2 months and riot not nerfing him (GIVE ME ONE REASON TO NOT NERF HIM FFS) now removes more than half of my hp with from 1500 range becoming even more cancer than

and let's not talk about

honestly i'm tilted right now because how slow riot is, the only marksmen change atm is a buff to tristana

no nerfs to

45 Comments

AirKingNeo1/28/2017, 12:19:55 AM10 votes

You're saying Varus, building midlane mage Q build, like a long time ago, KEYWORD MAGE BUILD, not marksmen. That build classifies him as a mage. Using his main damage ability, with a pull damage build and you have no bonus armor sans runes, shouldn't deal massive damage if fully charged?

You know what gives me headaches besides the boards here? Critical Strike Chance. It's the worst mechanic ever. Why should one champion class scale quadratically? That means anytime marksmen are strong early, they're broken as fuck because their late game is god tier still. Replace crit chance so marksmen scale like every other champion, linearly. Then early game ADCs aren't strong late game, and then the class can be properly balanced.

Jbels1/27/2017, 9:48:34 PM9 votes

ffs. First people bitch that ADCs are too weak and tanks are too strong, and ADCs are feeling stronger now and people are bitching about it. Make up your minds

Best princess EU1/27/2017, 8:48:36 PM5 votes

i thought adc were weak

Rebonack1/28/2017, 1:41:17 AM4 votes

Man I love playing against MF.

Getting chunked for half my HP by one errant Q sure is fun.

ZephyrDrake1/28/2017, 4:14:19 AM3 votes

MF would be doing the exact same thing even without the lethality changes since the lethality changes are pretty much just to give it more power to the early game. Mid game the difference should be minimal/irrelevant (if there is even any) and late there is no difference whatsoever. So guess what? MF with a lethality build would be doing the exact same thing before this patch.

Varus if he built that in the previous patch he would be doing pretty much the same amount of damage or at the bare minimum be really close to it so there is nothing new in him taking a chunk of your HP from a distance if you are a squishy with no resistances.

Lethality changes didn't do anything unless you are being destroyed in the early game by someone who built a single lethality item and nothing else

Teémò1/27/2017, 9:08:18 PM3 votes

I swear their balance team only thinks we need to do more damage. rather than making it a competitive game. The hell is Kalista gonna do in this meta man? I say her specifically because She highlighted lcs and amazed everyone with her high skill cap hopping and E's. That was when E sports really considered league to be sportlike. But now nope, get to hear esports people apologize for saying that league is so broken it can't be called a sport anymore.

LemurMonster1/28/2017, 1:34:28 AM3 votes

YES! About damn time someone show how busted Jhin is. It's doesnt matter that attack speed is kinda useless on him as he has to reload after 4th shot But when he can spam damaging abiltys with auto attacks... that makes that weakness pointless...

He is like a long range poke Riven with a ton of moment speed.. ugh.. I cant even try to get near him without being blown up with that insane range... dont even get me started with his ulti range & slow.

MF... Her Q is disgusting... I also saw many build nothing but ap but ulti still takes like more than half of ones heath.. like wtf.... Varus is just long range Q poke cancer & riot needs to look at all this as its been happening around to long.

Hibeki1/28/2017, 3:51:55 AM2 votes

God forbid a champion have a strength.

There would be a problem if their weaknesses beat your strengths. But a champion doing his job is nothing to be mad about.

When you look at it that way, every champion is broken.

Jefftiffy1/28/2017, 4:05:43 AM2 votes

As I mostly play Xin jungle right now. MissFortune just blows up instantly and is pretty useless all game. I just dive her and CC her nonstop and she can't do anything. Corki can't burst me enough with my innate sustain and chase. Jhin has 0 escape and blows up almost instantly. Honestly the only ADCs I fear are Caitlyn Vayne .

BasedJarvan4201/28/2017, 4:56:00 AM1 votes

lmao wait until quin comes back into the meta with that full lethality build 1 shotting you.

Ben Sharpio1/27/2017, 9:11:17 PM1 votes

lol you forgot that quinn is coming back into meta. How fun is that :D

AmazoX1/28/2017, 12:04:01 AM1 votes

Pre patch 7.2: ''Adc in 2k17 LUL''

Patch 7.2: ''Not ? Jungler in 2k17 LUL''

Baron Perenolde1/28/2017, 12:11:18 AM1 votes

People are only now complaining about MF? She's been chunking squishies with a single Q for months. She's always been my go-to marksman when I'm forced into the role but now it's just braindead.

Matake1/27/2017, 9:12:17 PM1 votes

Honestly I can see nerfs coming to Varus because of how much his Q does. Not enough reaction time for how wide it hits.