Tank items are not too weak. Damage is just too strong.

NY64··2 votes·1,174 views

I say this because remember the tank rework era when tanks were too op and could soak anything. Zac, Maokai, and Sej got reworked. Along with them the tank items also got changed, mainly they all lost health but received more armor/magic resist. Although it seemed to have helped reduce tanks’ durability, they were still too strong.

But everything changed when season 8 came along. Season 8 skyrocketed damage by adding runes reforged and increasing damage of items. Then Conqueror came along and single handedly kicked tanks out of top lane. Now we’re at a point where nearly everyone dies at the same amount of time. If anything life steal champions feel like the tankiest champions.

The reason I’m making this post is because I don’t want to see tank items buffed because damage items were buffed to reduce the power of tanks. The last thing we need is an arms race of buffing damage and defense back and forth. Let’s just reduce damage. Starting with these changes:

Nerf amount of AD in certain items like Infinity Edge.

Reduce CDR in items or get rid of problematic items like Spear of Sojin.

Reduce or remove scaling on keystones so players don’t stack AD/AP to maximize their keystone damage.

Change last whisper back to bonus armor instead of total armor.

8 Comments

TheBrothersGrymm3 votes

the issue is tank shreding items are op and cheap, bork does 8% of max hp, LDR and MR went from bonus armor pen to total that was a huge thing, damage and items need reworks not champs, if you die 1v1 to a tank maokai and an adc you have issues my dude build bork and out heal everything he does oh no he cced you, grab a qss probelm solved, oh he has more cc grab mercs 35% attack speed aint gunna make or break ya

Tahminatrix 1 votes

That and none of maokai`s cc will stop you from auto attacking, his q disrupt will likely just happen while youre waiting to fire your next auto.

Soul Dealer1 votes

Agreed. I just had a game where I was playing malphite and the enemy nasus of all people did the most damage to me even though his q is ad and I had like 700 armor.

Tahminatrix 1 votes

Tank items are cheap af (and not in a good way) and defensive stats scale so linearly that your biggest powerspike is after the first item, you are handed 10 minutes to be able to do anything provided that you wernt too far behind from the laning phase and your team has a decent damage dealer that didnt int feed and knows how to position well + follow up.

I would kill for some extra % defensive stats on each tank item (so squishies cant abuse them) but have the tank items cost extra gold.

For example, item 3143 increase gold cost from 2900 to 3500, take away 5 armor and 50 health. Now gives +5% armor health and mr, stacks linearly with similar passives.

Put this +% passive on every pure tank item that cant be used directly to do damage to enemies (like thornmail and abyssal mask)

What would this mean? How would it affect the game?

You could go full tank and actually be more tanky than the guy who built item 3071 and item 3053

TheBrothersGrymm1 votes

LDR cuts threw 35% or total armor, MR cuts threw 25% and gives greiv, it went from bonus armor to total armor, that hurts tanks alot, bork does 8% of max hp as bonus damage, plys lifesteal plus activate, bloodthirster gives 20% lifesteal, buy bork and BT and no tank should ever break your sheild, grab a qss and its worse, tank items dont need changes damage needs to be lowered, tanks got hit so hard they are unplayable in most lanes, just hoping for late game, tanks also for the most part get least amount of gold, mainly just cs and the occasional kill, some tanks are strong but alot are weak.

The thigh guy1 votes

Not damage items. Pen items.

item 3071 item 3035 both of its items item 3135

These items alone are why tanks suck ass right now.

bluefire mark 21 votes

Nerf ad..nerf ad... nerf ad..

Where's the ap items good sir? Mages destroy tanks with Liandrys, Morrell, and void staff.

NY641 votes

Yeah that too, forgot to mention it.

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